tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23864405533017787772024-03-13T17:24:52.548-04:00The Bigfoot Forums BlogThe Official Blog for the Bigfoot Forums, The Number One Bigfoot Forum on The Web!BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-28591127638276581082017-11-23T17:43:00.000-05:002017-11-23T17:43:55.344-05:00Is There A Link Between Bigfoot Reproduction And Migration?<br />
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What is being observed as migration patterns could be linked to the creatures reproduction habits. Most Bigfoot sightings happen in the Spring and summer months. Reports of the creature in a certain area, then subsequent reports in areas not too far from the initial sighting could form a route of sorts and be interpreted as a path of migration, going from one place to another. It is also possible that these travels could be the traveling, or migration if you will, from areas that are being used as hunting and foraging grounds, to a safe place for them to breed and give birth to offspring.<br />
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All animals, including man, seek safety when giving birth. This is not only for them while in their most vulnerable state, but also for the offspring who are basically defenseless at this time. Perhaps this movement from one area to another is being perceived as purely migratory, and not considering the movement to safety. This migration would occur at approximately the same time each year and generally along the same route. This natal philopatry is most common in salmon, tuna and puffins, but may be a factor for Bigfoot as well.<br />
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If this follows, then when the young are strong enough to travel with the family unit, the reverse happens and the perception of a migration is set.<br />
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In June of 1961, Warren Scott of Seattle said he was abducted by Bigfoot and taken to just such an area. Scott claims he was snatched in the middle of the night by a Bigfoot and carried over 70 miles, through a tunnel in the mountains and to a cave. He spent some time in this cave with a family of Bigfoot, a father, mother and son, and was basically kept, as what seemed to him, as a pet. One day, Scott was able to leave the cave, and upon doing so was confronted with a sight, if it is to be believed , was astounding. As he came out of the cave, he saw 50 or 60 Bigfoot milling around in what he perceived to be a box canyon. The female of the family unit took him then to a cave that was used as a nursery.<br />
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Yes, this, along with the well known tale from Albert Ostman, seem fantastical at the very least, but there could be a kernel of truth in these tall tales. They follow a know patter of actions by breeding animals, and would provide an explanation to the perception of migration. These reports, along with known human and primate breeding and birthing patterns raise questions to be answered. <br />
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This answers, or at least provides a possibility as to what appears to be migration patterns. It also answers an aspect, aside from when people are in the mountain areas, as to why Bigfoot are seen during certain times of the year. These patterns would follow the birthing patterns of spring and summer, and sometimes into the early fall months. If Bigfoot is more closely related to man, this would not follow the indicated pattern,but if they are more closely related to the animal kingdom, they would fall into these timelines for breeding and birthing. They may be more closely related to apes than to man. I say this because out of the 633 species of primates, only human eyes show sclera. Bigfoot sighting reports I have found relate that the eyes of Bigfoot do not show the whites of the eyes.<br />
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So, I feel that these may lead us to perceive the path Bigfoot takes to and from his breeding/birthing grounds as a migration pattern. Something we will only know for sure when we finally get a solid hit on the Bigfoot and their wanderings and travels.Old Doghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17051195309358151417noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-49323042046922656022017-08-12T21:23:00.000-04:002017-08-12T21:23:17.561-04:00Something Hairy Is Going On In The Desert<div style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #272a34; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
It's been seen by hikers, rock climbers, military personnel and around residences. It's been called The Cement Monster, Yucca man, Sandman, but the most common is Bigfoot or Sasquatch. The part that I find most interesting is that it has been reported by all of these folks....in the deserts of Southern California. Temperatures in this area regularly reach over 110 degrees in the height of summer, and water is scare at best. So why are we seeing reports of a large hairy creature in this area? Can a Bigfoot type creature exist in a desert environment? Is there sufficient shelter, water and food to sustain such a creature?</div>
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Let's take a look at the reports. The one that caught my attention was from the late 90's, but let's take them in chronological order, and we'll get to the one from the 90's a bit later.</div>
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There have been oral reports and tales of Yucca Man stretching back to the early 1900's but very little documented reports from that era. The earliest documented report that I could find was from 1971.</div>
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In early 1971, at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in 29 Palms California, a guard was standing guard at the armory when he saw a figure approaching his post. He ordered the figure to halt, but it did not heed the order. The figure then rushed the guard, knocking him unconscious. The guard was found the next morning, still unconscious and with his rifle bent nearly in half.</div>
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That same evening a few residents of a nearby neighborhood, being alerted to something being wrong by the dogs in the neighborhood incessantly barking, reported seeing two creatures roaming around. One was reported to be about 12 ft. tall, and the other was shorter, about 8 ft. was reported. One reported creatures crossing their yard, while a bit later a couple had reported that they saw two tall creatures around their horse corrals. This was in the neighborhood around Valley Vista Street and Utah Trail.</div>
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In 1979, in the Desert Hot Springs area, a couple driving through the desert at night, reported a sighting of a creature that stepped out from behind a Yucca tree about 150 ft in front of their vehicle. The driver turned on his high beams to get a better view and the creature sprinted away into the dark of the desert. The returned the next day to see if they could find any sign of the creature, but found nothing.</div>
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In March of 1988, after spending the day at Big Bear Lake, two Marines were traveling back to base. While passing the a cement factory caught sight of a creature crossing the road about 150 to 200 yards in front of their car. They hurriedly pulled over and gave chase, but lost the creature in the dark. The location of this sighting is one of the reasons for it's name “The Cement Monster”. It has been sighted by locals in the area of the local cement plants. There are two in the immediate area of the sightings, the Lehigh Cement Company and the Cal-Portland Cement Company.</div>
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The most recent report that I could find, but sadly detailed documentation is lacking, is from the late 1990's. I could find no had date for this sighting, and only anecdotal reporting at best, but here goes.</div>
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Reportedly, a rock climber returned from a recent rock climbing outing was going over some pictures he had taken during his climb, and upon examination of one of the pictures noticed a face looking back at him from between some rocks. The face was what he called “a primate face”. I could find no pictures from the climber to verify his sighting and scant reports. This sighting is the one that made me look further into this subject.</div>
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So, can a Bigfoot creature inhabit an area like this? This is a dry and barren area with little in the way of resources, and hotter than blazes. Granted, the time of these sightings, when reported, where not the hottest of times for that particular area, but still, little in the way of resources if we disregard the temperatures. Most will say that given the reasons I've stated and add to that the increased body heat from being covered with hair, it is impossible.</div>
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The areas of the reports are in the valley areas of the region, but not that far away is the fingertip of a mountainous range that is so high in elevation as to have a ski resort which experiences snowfall as late in the year as April and May, and is of a high enough elevation to also have an observatory run by CalTech.</div>
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Plentiful shelter, water and food sources are in the area, and it is not that far from the valley that a creature could not venture down from the mountains to wander around the lowlands at night when the temperatures are cooler. The area goes from desert scrub to forested mountains with in a 10 to 15 mile span.</div>
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The sightings have dropped off to basically nothing since the late 90's. It would appear that if there were a creature, or creatures, roaming the 29 Palms / Desert Hot Springs area, they may well have moved on. I'm not absolutely sure of what these folks saw, if anything, but after looking a bit closer at the areas involved, I'm leaning towards this being a distinct possibility.</div>
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So what do you think? Do you think a desert Bigfoot is possible? Did a creature, or group of creatures, journey down to the valley area for a while? Why did they come, and why did they leave?</div>
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BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-20730178737770328462015-06-18T14:26:00.002-04:002015-06-18T14:32:57.049-04:00Kathy Strain's Interview! <br />
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<span style="color: orange;">I would like to thank Kathy once again for taking time to answer questions from our forum!! Thank you my friend and may you be blessed with many more years in your endeavors!!</span></h2>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">1) So with the
upcoming fire season in your region upon us early, what is the plan for
trying to get some good BF evidence of sightings ala the Battle Mountain Fire
incident in Nevada? What about that incident? Any truth to it?
Ever heard a colleague in the Forest Service (or fire incident command)
make mention of it? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
Battle Mountain fire incident (where a bigfoot was supposedly burned and they
called in a vet) never happened.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I
investigated it at the time it was reported. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I have never heard any former or current
employee talk about it (because there is nothing to talk about!).<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">2) What is it like
being a bigfooter and a proud grandmother both?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It
feels pretty awesome! I hope that one day my grandson, Matthew, can get this
Bachelor’s degree in Anthropology with a concentration in Wood Ape!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">3) How close do you
feel you (or Bob) ever got to a Bigfoot, what makes you think you were that
close? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Before
my sighting in 2012 (see below), I was probably no more than 30 yards from two
wood apes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My husband Bob nearly stepped
on them (again, see below). (Just to be clear, I’m an archaeologist and we use
metrics - my estimates on yards/feet isn’t great.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In a radio interview I gave last year I said
the wood apes I saw were 100 yards from me without realizing that is a football
field – my bad!).<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy, your work with the
pictographs which are over 1000 years old is important because it debunks the
skeptical claims that BF is a modern myth created after TV aired the PGF
film. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">4) My question is, how are they
dated?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Pictographs are created through ochre and clay
– neither of which can be directly dated, so the age of the pictographs are
based on archaeological and ethnographic evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As noted in the article I wrote, the Hairy
Man Pictographs are located within a village. Artifacts from the village date
roughly to 500 years ago to modern contact. The pictographs are slightly older
than the village, so a good estimate is 500-1000 years in age.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We know they were present in the late 1800s
because we have photographs of them from that time period.<span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">5) Please give us a narrative of
how you became interested in the pictographs. How did you come across them and
your feelings when you first realized what they signified? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Hairy Man Pictographs have been known
for a very long time. I first saw them when I was in high school and thought
they were pretty cool.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It’s
“significance” didn’t dawn on me until I was the District Archaeologist for the
Sequoia National Forest. We were doing an archaeological excavation and I was
working with the Tule River Tribal elders on the project. It was during that
time that I was told the stories and my passion for traditional beliefs about
bigfoot started.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">That moment must have been sweet!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">6) Are there other pictographs
that have come to your attention after your research paper at Mayak Datat?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes, I’ve been told that there
are a few more but I haven’t visited them or confirmed that they are indeed
pictographs of a “bigfoot”.</i></b> <span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">1980squatch<o:p></o:p></span></u></b><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">7) How do your First Nations
contacts feel about you being part of a pro kill effort? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don’t know that I have ever had a conversation
about my pro-kill stance with any Native Americans. Generally when I’m doing
work with tribes, we’re talking about them and what they believe, not about me.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Norseman </span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">–<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">8) From an anthropological
standpoint studying Native myths about the creature?<span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- (<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I think this goes with the
question below</i></b>)<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">9) Is there any information that
be gleaned from them that could be used to take a type specimen? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes, quite a bit actually!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Native stories talk about wood apes throwing
rocks, doing tree knocks, whistling, being very curious and watching humans,
climbing and being in trees, being very fast, and that usually only one is seen
at a time (although there is some mention of groups, but it’s fairly
rare).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Hopefully the stories about them
stealing women and children for food are just a scary story!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">I also want to
say Kathy that I respect you greatly and thanks for all you do!! <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thank
you</i></b>!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p><span style="text-decoration: none;"> </span></o:p></span></u></b><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Chelefoot </span></u></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">– <o:p></o:p></span></b><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Thanks Kathy, for your
willingness to do this interview! I have a great amount of respect for the work
you do in the field, the books you have written, the work you do for this
forum, and you as a person.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thank you Chelefoot – but my only
book so far is “Giants, Cannibals & Monsters: Bigfoot in Native Culture.”<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">10) Is there one incident in
particular that makes you feel sure that this animal truly exists? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes, my own sightings! <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>HA!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I
was heavily influenced by “Legend of Boggy Creek” as a child. My interest in
bigfoot is what caused me to go into anthropology in the first place. I think
there are a lot of incidences that caused me to know the animal exists –
probably the most important being the PG film.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I'm still on the fence, so I'd
love to hear what things most influenced you to research this subject.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kudos to you, as a scientist, for
having the guts to actively, publicly research this and thanks for all the time
that you put into finding the truth!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Kathy-
Thank you for the kind words!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Rockape<o:p></o:p></span></u></b><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">First off I want to thank you for
your work not only in the BF field but with the forum as well. Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thank
you!</i></b><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Myself, I'm a skeptic, but not a
scoftic, I lean towards believe there is such a thing as BF. I assume
since you are associated with NAWAC you are of the belief BF is an ape.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">11) So I would ask, are you open
to the idea that these creatures could be relict hominids, or do you strictly
believe they are a type of ape?<span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span>Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I am open to the idea that wood
apes could be a relict hominid. The only thing I actually know for sure is that
they aren’t Homo sapiens.</i></b><o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">12) I'd also like to add to
Gigantor's question of dating and ask what is the earliest recorded date of the
existence of the Hairy Man pictographs? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Other archaeologists have date
ranged it to around 700 to 2000 years old, but I suspect it’s around 1000 years
old. <o:p></o:p></i></b></span><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Explorer </span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">– <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">13) As
the chair of the Alliance of Independent Bigfoot Researchers, can you
provide examples of best practices or excellent research that is being done by
Independent Research Organizations but that are not well known in the
community at large?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">- I
am actually the treasurer for the AIBR. I was the chair for many years but I
got too busy with other work.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Our
website has a great section on protocols that a researcher can use as well as a
fantastic sound library of known and unknown animals.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can find it at www.bigfootresearch.com.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">14) Of the
different strategies being pursued by the many different and diverse BF research
organizations all over USA and Canada, which strategies do you think will
be the most fruitful in obtaining physical evidence acceptable to the
scientific/academic community?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I think
it depends a lot on the location. In California, I like to camp and use call
blasting to bring them in closer. In Area X, we do a lot of hiking and act a
lot more aggressively.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There we also use
hair snares which I recommend for all locations.</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">15) Why do you
think these creatures are so cryptic?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It’s
hard to know. In Area X, wood apes throw rocks and knock on wood in an attempt
to get our attention, but the second they get seen by one of us, they bolt. Why
do they do that? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I suspect it’s an
emotional reaction and they can’t help themselves.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">See-Te-Cah-NC</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">I'd like to say
that I'm thrilled that our own Kathy Strain is affording us an opportunity to
ask her questions related to our favorite cryptid.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thank
you!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">16) (two part
question) Since I'm not sure exactly how far back accounts of the creature by
the Indians go, I'd like to ask if there is any evidence that the Paleolithic
humans in North America (i.e. - Clovis) interacted with it or were aware of the
creature's existence? If so, what? Please explain in as much detail as
possible, and your educated opinions are welcome. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy-<span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">We
have no way of knowing if pre-Clovis or Clovis people interacted with bigfoot.
There isn’t any artifacts, bones or petroglyphs that suggested they did or
didn’t.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Their oral tradition didn’t
survive. I would think that they did have interactions, but that would be a
guess. The oral traditions and stories we have from Native Americans are only a
few thousand years old.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Gumshoeye</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">17) An early
BFRO report from out of California boasted to having the oldest petroglyph
at the time (images etched in stone) do you know how old that petroglyph was
estimated to be and do you know if the petroglyphs found in Michigan’s Upper
Peninsula Delta county are of the approximate period? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I am
not sure what you are referring to. In general, petroglyphs (pecked into rock)
are thought to be older than pictographs (painted on rock). There is a Hairy
Man petroglyph at the Hairy Man Pictograph site, but it would be the same age
as the rest of the art.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">18) Can you
tell us what other states these petroglyphs are believed to exist?
<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I
don’t know of any other “bigfoot” petroglyphs. I would be curious if you know
of some!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">In both
instances the engravings who found inside a cave structure as I understand it,
and they both possessed some very crude but familiar drawings of what we
would easily associate with Sasquatch today thank you. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Could
you point me in the direction of these? <o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Doc Holiday</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">19) Have you
received much static from scientific colleagues for your active participation
in BFery? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Nope,
not ever.</i></b><span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">20) Have you
ever experienced anything that you perceived as communication from any BFs, and
was it verbal, physical (thrown objects etc) or other? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I
have heard many calls, whistles, wood knocks, and rock clacks.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I definitely believe that wood knocks are a
form of communication with other wood apes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I heard what I like to call jibberish on one occasion. It was in 2012 in
Area X and very early in the morning. I was awakened by a very frustrated animal
that yelled out a sound like “Yoga” and then threw a rock at the roof of the
cabin I was in. Was that a “word” that communicated something to someone or
just a “sound”?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don’t know. I have had
many rocks thrown at me in Area X – I’m not sure if I would call that
communication or not, but it sure causes me to communicate bad words towards
the wood apes!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<a href="http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/user/23549-swwasasquatchproject/"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><span style="color: black;">SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT</span></span></b></a><span class="author"><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><span style="color: black;"> –</span> <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy: Thank you for answering
questions. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">21) Is there anything similar in California to the ape
like basalt stone heads found along the Columbia River in
Washington? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Not that I am aware of.</i></b> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">22) Are California finds limited to
rock drawing art? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">As far as art goes, there are old California
Native American baskets that have a bigfoot design in them as well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The Pacific Northwest is probably the best
known for their pre-contact bigfoot artwork – totem poles, masks, costumes, and
dances. I have been doing work on bigfoot in South America and have found
similar costumes and dances (as well as stories).</i></b> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">23) Secondly I just became aware of a stone wall
structure in Mt Hood National Forest that has been examined by the Mt Hood
Forest Service archeologist and preliminary estimates suggest that
the structure may date back 10,000 years. Are you aware
of that find and has anything like that been found in the mountains in
California? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I have heard about it yes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don’t know that a conclusion has been
determined yet though. We have 10,000 year old artifacts and archaeological
sites in California. We don’t have anything like a stone wall that dates back
that far.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Wag</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Ok, so there
may be a few Sasquatch pictograms, the one shown above being the best, showing
probable ''eye shine'', or something symbolic.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
lines coming from Hairy Man’s eyes are tears – after all the animals created
man, he was afraid of Hairy Man and ran away. That hurt Hairy Man’s feeling so
he drew himself crying.</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">24) The
''Dogman'' is now sliding into ''mainstream'' cryptozoology; -do you know of
any pictograms of a possible ''Dogman'' out there?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I have never heard of a dogman pictograph.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Stan Norton</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">25) Is there any indication at Area X of sasquatch
foraging evidence? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I have seen tubers pulled up – but any
animal could do that! The most compelling indication were two nut cracking
stations in X. Nuts had clearly been placed on the top of the rock and then
crushed with a hand held rock and the meat eaten. It had to be a human or a
wood ape and it seems like a strange thing for a human to do.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">26) What do you postulate they are feeding on there? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">There is so much food, it is unbelievable –
berries, tubers, nuts, insects, snakes, rats, squirrels, deer – it’s
practically a super market!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">27) Could you test your hypotheses? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It
would be great if we could watch a wood ape eat something, but so far, no
direct observance has been made.</i></b> <br />
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28) Also, have there been any noticeable sasquatch behavioral responses to the
clear cut forestry activities going on around X? (as detailed by Bipto on the
BFS) <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I
think the clear cutting is affecting the wood apes greatly – I think it pushes
them into smaller and smaller areas and likely reduces their food availability.
The clear cutting is also replacing the deciduous nut-bearing hardwood forests
with conifers. However, since we’re just starting our 5<sup>th</sup> year of a
long term study – we’ll have to wait and see.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">29) Might those activities have displaced animals
into/away from X?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I would think it would have displaced
animals into X rather than away.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That
may be the reason the area has so much activity.</i></b> <span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><br />
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Keep up the good work!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Gigantor</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">(Referring to Kathy’s sightings)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">30) Oh, Kathy,
why didn't you take a picture or video? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Actually
there were surveillance cameras deployed in the area and a motion sensitive
camera aimed very near the area of the sighting. All it captured was my behind
as I ran towards the animals (and it’s really hard to manage both a gun and a
camera at the same time…).<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">31) Were out in
the woods looking for BF without a camera?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I always have a camera on me. Up until last year, the area was
blanketed with plot watchers and motion activated cameras and in 2013 we even
used a surveillance system around the cabin. We have go-pros as well. None have
captured a photo of a bigfoot.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But
again, our intent isn’t to get a photo of a bigfoot – it is to get undeniable
proof – a body.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">32) One more,
have you seen the hands? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
hands were balled up into a fist so I didn’t see the hands nor fingers.</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">33) Do they
have an opposable thumb? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">No idea, but since they can grasp rocks in
order to throw them, I’m guessing they do.</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p><span style="text-decoration: none;"> </span></o:p></span></u></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Chelefoot</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">34) Kathy, please tell us about the baby sighting. No Mom
around? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">In June 2013, I and some other members of my
team, were sitting on the side porch of the cabin to get out of the sun.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I looked up and noticed a tree shaking and
saw a roughly 30 pound dark brown animal with no tail climb to the end of a
branch, “bounce” the limb, and use the momentum to jump across a clearing to
another tree. I thought I had just seen a chimpanzee.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I told Brian Brown what I saw and we ran to
the location and it was already gone.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>The tree it jumped into appeared to have been jumped in before – the
higher limbs were broken – I hypothesize that as the baby wood ape put on
weight, it broke the limbs it was jumping to and moved down to the next
limb.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I didn’t see any other animal.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">35) How close? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- Roughly 60 yards.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">36) Did the baby see you and how did it respond? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I don’t believe it saw me.</i></b><span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Lastlaugh</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">37) Kathy, do
you and your husband plan on going to Area X this summer? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes.</i></b><span style="color: red;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">38) Any news about
this year's operation?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Nothing
that I can share at this time.</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">39) Also, are
there native legends that confirm or mirror specific aspects of BF behavior as
theorized today?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes,
see above.</i></b><span style="color: #4f81bd; mso-themecolor: accent1;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">40) </span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">If I understand correctly, most native people considered
BF to be a type of person. Is that true? Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yes,
most Native Americans (past and present) believe bigfoot to be a type of person
– a brother to us, but most Native Americans believe all animals to be a
brother of some sort.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">41) Have you heard anything that would make you think
that BF is viewed differently than other animals? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">No, most Native American believe all animals
are sacred and a brother of some sort. They attribute powers and significance
to many of them</i></b><span style="color: #365f91; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;">. </span></span><span lang="EN" style="color: #365f91; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-themecolor: accent1; mso-themeshade: 191;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">WV Footer</span></u></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> – <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Kathy, Thank you for taking the time to answer questions.
I would just like to hear more about your sightings<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">Kathy- <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">(This is the quick, painless version).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In May 2012, me, my husband (Bob), and three
other NAWAC researchers were in Area X. At about 6:30 pm. we heard a rock throw
and they left to go investigate the sound. I stayed behind at the cabin. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I was just looking around an area called “the
bottleneck” when I saw what looked like a branch being slowly let go in a
nearby bushy tree. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I noted at the time
that there was a dead tree lying on the ground that went through the same tree.
When the guys came back I asked them to check the area and they casually looked
and said nothing was there. They then left to go investigate another rock throw
but Bob stayed behind with me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I asked
him to look more thoroughly in the bush/tree. He pulled the limbs apart and
looked really hard – even thought about stepping on some additional logs on the
ground to go through to the other side – but instead he just yelled back at me
that there was nothing there but a couple of logs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When everyone came back, we sat down and started
talking. My chair was situated so I was looking right down the bottleneck.
Brian Brown was on one side of me and Bob was on the other.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The other two researchers were facing each
other.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>At around 7:45 pm. (although I
swear it feels like it was just after we sat down), we started hearing some
footfalls.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One of the guys said that it
sounded bipedal.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Just then I see two
black figures, one big and one small, come down the bottleneck along the
hillside.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I yelled “there they are”, then
I jumped up and ran at them, keeping my eyes on the big one. They bolted up the
hill like nothing I have ever seen before. It was like they had been on a
bungee and were suddenly pulled upward.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>The big one had muscular legs and to get up the hill, it had tucked in
its arms and bent itself over slightly (like a power runner).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I can’t tell you anything about the second
one other than it was smaller.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The next
morning when I came out of the cabin, everyone had a horrible look on their
face and Bob asked me to repeat what he had said about the bushy tree the day
before. I said “You said there was nothing in there but a couple of logs.” He
said “Guess how many are there now? There’s only one.” We all believe the wood
apes hadn’t left the area but had stayed in the bushy tree, lying down on the
ground to hide. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Bob had assumed they
were logs due to the shadows. Why did they come towards us instead of fleeing
away in a safer direction? Maybe they thought we were gone…or maybe they wanted
a closer look. I really don’t know.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">The
other sighting was of the baby wood ape that I already mentioned.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: orange;">First of all I want to say
thank you to Cliff for taking a few minutes out of his very busy schedule to
answer our Forum questions for our Blog page. I must say that Cliff’s name has
come up for questions often in the last few months I have been doing this blog.
Cliff, did you know the only other Finding Bigfoot cast member’s name that has
been asked for is James “Bobo” Fay? I think that is a testament to the fact our
forum relates more to you.</span> <o:p></o:p><br />
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<o:p> </o:p><i>Thank you for the kind
words and for the opportunity to interact with the folks at Bigfootforums.com.
I'm always happy to answer questions based on my experiences and speculations,
but please remember: I'm not a bigfoot expert, though I play one on TV. There
are no bigfoot experts. I'm just a bigfoot learner, like everybody else. </i><o:p></o:p></div>
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1) <b>David NC;</b><br />
<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I
would like to ask Cliff that with his travels around the country is the
realization that Sasquatch is more widespread in the United States readily
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<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">It is certainly more accepted that sasquatches
have a wider range than was previously thought a few decades ago. As recently
as the 1980's, many prominent bigfoot researchers thought this was largely a
Pacific Northwest phenomenon. I think this view is now widely recognized to be
incorrect. As far as I can tell, sasquatches live in suitable habitat
throughout most of North America. (Their presence below the Mexican border is
not well-documented, and is based mostly in historical newspaper accounts and
heresay) Sasquatches, or at least closely related species, seemingly are, or
were, present on all the other continents (except for Antarctica). </span></i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">2) </span><b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">PBeaton;</span></b><br />
First off, thanks for your work an time, it's appreciated.</div>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Besides the P/G film and tracks, what is the most
compelling piece of evidence for you, be it a video, audio, sightin' report or
track find?</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">For me, I find the congruency of all the available data to be the most
compelling thing to support the reality of the species. The inferred structure
of the foot based on footprint evidence is congruent with what can be observed
in the PGF. The anatomy and behavior noted in historical newspaper accounts
coincides perfectly with what people continue to report to the present day. The
hand and foot impressions on record seem to be morphologically similar whether
from WA, KY, MI, or elsewhere. Congruencies abound, and in fact seem to be the
norm. If this was all made up, there should be some notable discrepancies, but
there really aren't. I find that impressive.</span></i></div>
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All the best! Pat Beaton...</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Not so much one piece of evidence, but I'm really into the repeat
appearances of one individual sasquatch over time. There are some excellent
examples from the footprint track data that show one or two individuals popping
up again and again in a general area as the years progress. This information
gives insight into possible habits, range, and seasonality of the creatures, as
well as rare glimpses into the social structure of bigfoots. </span></i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">3) <b>bf2011HBMay;</b></span><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">My
question for Cliff is; will you be doing any follow-up work on the site of the
London Trackway when he is not busy with the show?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Yes,
though my time is limited. I have started experimenting with fake feet in order
to learn more about the tell-tale signs of hoaxing. I have also enlisted the
help of a USGS soil geologist to help with possibly determining the mass of the
track maker.</span></i></div>
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<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I'm
not so sure anymore that the London Trackway is the real deal, so I'm working
on the “null hypothesis” approach: trying to prove it is not real. If I can do
this, then I have my answer. If not, the question is still open. My confidence
in the trackway is about about 50/50 right now.</span></i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">4) <b>Chelefoot;</b></span><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Hi
Cliff, on the show, you guys do a lot of calls and wood knocks. I realize that
it is necessary to get responses to make the night investigations more exciting
and "TV worthy" (whatever that means!). But how do your own
methodologies differ from those used on the show?</span><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Do
you do the same types of things when you are not being filmed?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">On
Finding Bigfoot, we necessarily have to take the kind of approach that I refer
to as “quick and dirty.” We only have a couple nights at a location, and calls
and knocks are an effective way to get a response and make some television with
some real possible bigfoot action included. However, I don't really take that
same approach when I'm working my own spots outside of Portland, OR where I
live.</span></i><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I
do knock and call at times, but I use these techniques sparingly. It seems
pretty clear to me that you can't trick a bigfoot for long before it catches on
and learns that humans are doing the calling. They will soon recognize your
calls, and they might just leave the area if they figure out that it's just you
again.</span></i><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I
think a better approach is to frequent a certain location as much as possible
doing the exact same thing every time. I recommend that one drives the same
car, wears the same clothes, does the same routine, goes to bed at the same
time, etc... Just assume that you're being watched when you are at the
location.</span></i><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">My
goal is to become a predictable feature in THEIR environment. They need to
learn about me if I'm going to be allowed to learn about them. They need to
learn that I am not a threat, and I am interesting enough to come around and
watch for a while.</span></i><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">The
problem with my preferred research method is that I'm on the road for eight or
nine months a year, so I cannot become that predictable feature in their
environment. They might recognize me at the Blueberry Bog, but I'm not
predictable yet. Maybe once the show's over I can do a better job at this...</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Do
you think knocks/calls could alert them to your presence and cause them to
move away, or do you feel like it peaks their curiosity and draws them in?
Thanks, and I really enjoy the show - Never miss it! Michele</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">I
think that knocks and calls could do either of these. It depends on the
sasquatch. They are as individual as you and me, and they don't conform to our
expectations. Some bigfoots are just more curious than others, and some are
more shy. Some are probably just plain jerks. They seem to be very people-like
in this way.</span></i><br />
5) <b>lightheart;</b><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Hi
Cliff, since you have begun working with the Bridges what conclusions have you
drawn about the Sasquatch in Florida as compared to those living in the PNW?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"> I don't see any significant difference between the
sasquatches in Florida and those found in other parts of North America. They
have the same foot morphology and general behaviors as described elsewhere.
They may live in a different habitat, but so do the bigfoots that live in South
Dakota and the Pacific Coast. I don't think the habitat makes for a different
species when pretty much everything else about them is the same.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> 6</o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">) <b>Doc Holiday;</b></span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">So for
cliff.......how about, how often do you have to fight the urge to smack MM on
the back of his head and ask " what are you thinking ??"
LOL</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">To be fair, I think we all can be difficult
sometimes, not just Moneymaker. We spend a tremendous amount of time together,
and we all have strong personalities, so we wear on one another. I liken it to
going on a roadtrip with your significant other. They will eventually annoy
you, though you get along fine. I feel that we have a good balance and
understanding of one another now. I wouldn't smack anyone on the head, and I
could ask eitherMoneymaker, Bobo, or Ranae, “What are you thinking?” and they
would not be offended.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">But more seriously, if you could do things
different on the show what would you change?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">I would probably change the bigfoot that comes on before and after the
commercial. It roars and growls and drools, giving the viewer a skewed
perception of what a sasquatch is. It is made to frighten, but this isn't fair
to bigfoots. I understand why they do it, though. A bigfoot silently walking
into brush isn't nearly as dramatic, unless you've seen this yourself.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> 7</o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">) <b>Rockape;</b></span><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Cliff,
you say you were once pro-kill to obtain a specimen for scientific confirmation
of the species but are not anymore, what made you change your mind?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">Compassion made me change my mind. The more I
learned about the species, the more I realized that no individual bigfoot
deserves to make the sacrifice to be shot for the sake of the species. They are
not humans, but they are so human-like that it seems to me that it would be
morally wrong to kill one. I feel this same way about the other great ape
species, and I would feel that way about any other hominoid that might be
discovered elsewhere in the world. To sum it up in one sentence: It is very
rude to kill an individual in order to satisfy our curiosity.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">What
would you say is the worst part and the best part of doing the Finding Bigfoot
series?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">The best part about doing Finding Bigfoot has to
be the amazing opportunities it has given me to learn about the species in
different parts of the world. Sure, the adventure stuff is awesome. Who doesn't
like riding ATVs, crashing in hot air balloons, and traveling the world? But
still, at the end of the day it is really cool to see the similarities between
bigfoots in different parts of the globe and to compare them. It has given me
an understanding of the species that I don't think I could have obtained just
by working my spots in Oregon and Washington.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">The worst thing about being on Finding Bigfoot is
the time I have to spend away from home. It's hard to tell from watching the
show, but I'm basically an introverted home-body. I love to be at home, and I
love to be in Portland. When I hit the road, I leave behind my dog, girlfriend,
garden, guitar, fish tank, friends, and everything else that makes me Cliff. I
miss my life, but this won't last forever, and you have to make hay while the
sun is shining, so they say.</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Am I wrong, or does Renae seem a bit less skeptical
lately?</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">It's hard to say. I can't really figure her out. She speaks and acts like
bigfoots are real, but then she says she doesn't think they are and never has.
I think you'd have to ask Ranae about this, as I'm not qualified to answer for
her.</span></i><br />
8) <b>clubbedfoot;</b><br />
This is a loaded question and
if you can give a hint to the answer that would be pretty awesome.<br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Has the Finding Bigfoot show ever left out any evidence
of Bigfoot that was determined to have been too frightening or disconcerting
for the viewing audience?</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">No, this has never happened. Something that has happened, though, is that
bigfoot stuff has occurred that wasn't included in the show because it didn't
happen on camera. Television is a visual media, and if the cameras didn't
capture something, it cannot make the show. It makes sense, but it can be
pretty aggravating. For example, in Virginia while the cast was out trying to
encounter a bigfoot on a night investigation, a bigfoot or two came around base
camp where the crew and PA were hanging out in the cars watching movies or
doing whatever they do while we are working (they have to sit there with their
walkie talkies on in case we need something in the field, but they basically
have nothing to do for the four to six hours we are out walking around) and started
throwing rocks at the cars. Several rocks hit the sides and tops of the U-Haul
van, but the crew didn't realize what was going on at the time. This obviously
couldn't make the show since it didn't happen to the cast, and it wasn't on
camera.</span></i><br />
9) <b>peoplebooger;</b><br />
Cliff, enjoy your work, attitude and openness.<br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Do you have a youtube channel which displays any of your
music?</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">No, not yet. I am slowly getting my music website back in order, though,
and will be offering downloads of my original music there when things get
going. Eventually, CliffordBarackman.com will be up and running and will offer
my recordings for free, or whatever you'd like to pay me for them. This
business model is called “Pay what you want,” and it hits a chord in me that I
like. I don't plan on making a living on my music, and I really want people to
enjoy it, so the Pay-what-you-want model makes a lot of sense to me. A little
extra beer money is never a bad thing, but I won't have to depend on it to pay
my mortgage.</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">From your viewpoint, what new technologies and/or
methodology do you see coming to, or happening in the Bigfoot Research
field? Thanks</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">I think the most important technological innovation that will change
bigfooting is that thermal imagers and night vision will get cheaper, thus
putting this technology in the hands of more and more people. This has already
started to happen, but when the gear is within reach for hobbyists and laymen,
we should see a lot more video clips of possible bigfoots coming in. This, of
course, will raise questions on how to authenticate the clips, but that's a
good problem to have.</span></i><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">As far as methodologies for bigfooting, I hope that more rural people will
recognize that they share the woods, and even their own properties, with
sasquatches. These people could then obtain some of this inexpensive thermal or
night vision surviellance gear and install it in likely locations to get more
footage. I think the most effective method of studying bigfoots is to empower
the locals/propert owners to do the ground work and get footage. After all,
they are the ones that actually live there full time with the bigfoots.</span></i><br />
10) <b>kbhunter;</b><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Hi Cliff, in the years since 2008 I have changed my
opinion of the BF totally. It started from fear because my son had been chased
by one and it really scared him terribly. At the time he was 16 years old and
was stalking coyotes with a shotgun on our hunting lease. We then found a
series of tracks, very large ones and smaller ones on the road bed where this
happened. That made me realize it probably could have been defending a younger
one. Also, I have no doubt if it had wanted, it would have attacked him because
it was within 50 feet. Was there ever a time you feared them or thought they
were more like monsters so often portrayed on TV movies?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">No, not really. I figured that if they were dangerous or aggressive, they
would have been “discovered” by now, probably by an angry mob with pitchforks
and torches. That's not to say that I haven't been unnerved by their presence
once or twice. After all, they are large hairy ape-men, and that in itself is
kind of creepy. But still, logic tends to prevail in me, and I don't really
fear them any more than I would another wild creature.</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">As I began spending more time learning about them and
several glimpses of them in the woods around our camp. I began to change from
fear to more curious of what they were. After several interactions and very
good visuals including my wife seeing one look around a tree, we saw the face
as much more human like that I even thought they were. Do you think as I do
after much more evidence and interaction that the BF is a type of person?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">No, I don't think they are a type of person. They are a different species
with different needs, thoughts, desires, and ways of interacting with their
environment. We probably share many of the same emotions, fears, and impulses
with us, just like we do with other species, particularly the great apes.
However, to simplify them into another type of person I think is to not do them
justice. They are sasquatches. That is why I respect them and love them. Just
like many other species, they are very human-like in some ways, but are not
human. This does not imply they should be treated as inferiors in any way. They
should not be hunted. They should not be disrespected. They should not be
eaten. They should be learned about and respected for what they are: sasquatches.</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Have you had any clear sightings of their face and if so,
what was your thought at that time?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">No, I have not.</span></i><br />
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</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Do you have any current projects besides the Finding
Bigfoot show you can tell us about?</span><br />
<i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">I think the most important thing I'm doing is the Orang Pendek Project. I
am working with the locals in Sumatra to obtain physical evidence in the form
of footprint tracks and hair samples of orang pendeks in Kerinci National Park.
Before I started this project two years ago, there were two or maybe three
orang pendek casts in the world. Now I can proudly say there are nearly forty
in my collection, and more coming in all the time (I literally got an email
this morning that there was another sighting or track find with footprint casts
made). I am working on sharing the finds with the public via my website, but my
time is short because I'm on the road filming the show.</span></i><br />
<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;">·<span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";">
</span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Last question. Do you think they will be proven to
science any time soon?</span><br />
<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"><o:p> </o:p></span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Soon? I don't know. Since they are in fact a real species, I do think it is
an eventuality, though. My opinion on when this might happen fluxuates back and
forth, but when it comes down to it, I kind of don't care when science figures
out they're real. Since I am not pro-kill, I cannot advocate them being
“proven” to science because that necessitates a dead one. There is no other
option because that is the way science currently works. One will eventually be
shot, hit by a car, found dead, or something like that. Will it happen soon? I
have no idea. In the meantime, I'll be here trying to learn as much as I can
about them and trying to obtain footage so people can share our enthusiasm for
the creatures.</span></i><br />
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Again our thanks to your time and we look very much forward to your answers.
Please feel free to post any links or mention any future appearances here. We
feel very honored that you agreed to take the time to help us continue this
series of very informative Blog interviews.<br />
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<b>1) Gigantor;<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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He<span lang="EN">y Lyle, I
was reading your excellent blog and was surprised by the number of bigfoot
related movies I never knew were out there. It seems that most are in the
horror category, which prompts my questions.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">Do you think the on-screen bigfoot resembles the
real animal (if it exists). </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle: I think in terms of
physical description, the creatures of the movies generally resemble what
people describe in real life. Of course
they often exaggerate some aspects, but overall it’s basically a large, bipedal
ape with varying degrees of human traits.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">In terms of attitude and
demeanor, however, the movies typically stray from typical eyewitness
encounters by making the creatures far more aggressive and dangerous. Whereas the majority of actual eyewitness
accounts describe a more reclusive animal that is there one second and gone the
next, the horror movies usually involve a pissed off Bigfoot ripping people to
shreds. There have been instances where
real-life encounters suggest the creatures can be aggressive (a prime example
being the “Ford attack” of 1971 which was made famous by The Legend of Boggy
Creek movie – and documented in my book, The Beast of Boggy Creek), but these
aggressive incidents are far less frequent than the typical brief sighting, as
I’m sure you know. It’s only natural
that the horror movies play up this angle though, since entertainment and
scares are their goal.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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for discovery or does it hinder it?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle: That’s a good question. I think there’s two ways we can look at
it. On one hand, we could say that movies
which play up the sensational aspects of Bigfoot and make the creature into
something of a pop-culture icon are hindering the possibility that mainstream
science will embrace the subject. (This
would apply to beef jerky commercials as well.)
But on the other hand, if someone were to bring forth some piece of
irrefutable evidence – an actual body, a finger, a chunk of hair, skin, etc. –
then it doesn’t matter how many Bigfoot movies have been made. At that point the reality would eclipse the entertainment
version and scientists would be all over it (and eating their words, perhaps).<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">Have you had any type of encounter that makes you a knower that Bigfoot
exists, and if so, could you share your experience? </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; I’ve never had a
visual encounter. It’s certainly not
from lack of trying or from not being in areas that could potentially yield a
sighting, so perhaps it’s just not been my lucky day yet. My father is an avid hunter, so I grew up
hunting with him all throughout Texas. I
also camped and visited many areas such as Arkansas and East Texas throughout
my childhood, so I’ve definitely been in many areas over the years where
sightings were reported. And, of course,
as an adult I’ve gone out in many states for the purpose of Bigfoot investigation. I’ve heard a few weird things, but I’ve never
seen anything that I would definitively claim to be sighting of an unknown
creature.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">In your travels, where is the most active and
rewarding, (Regarding Actual visual or other evidence obtained), place that you
have ever been?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; The most promising area I’ve
experienced would probably be southern Arkansas. Specifically in the Sulphur River Bottoms
where I’ve gone many times, there’s been some excellent footprint finds, and I
myself have heard a strange howl that I cannot explain (see more below). As well, I’ve interviewed numerous witnesses
over the years that I felt had legitimate sightings in the area.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN">3) Kbhunter; </span><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">Exactly what made you decide to get involved in
Cryptids and the paranormal?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; Ever since I was young, I was
fascinated by the subject of unexplained creatures such as Bigfoot, Yeti, and Loch
Ness Monster. I think it was partly
because I liked the subject of “monsters,” but also because I had a love for
the outdoors. Since these creatures were
reportedly seen in the woods, mountains, or lakes, it sort of combined my
fascination for the unknown and my passion for getting out into nature. Of course seeing the PG-Film on television
and seeing The Legend of Boggy Creek movie when I was a kid helped fuel my
interest. As an adult I have a much more
scientific and rational approach to these creatures – which are obviously not
“monsters” in the implied sense of the word – but there’s still plenty of that inner
child-like wonder that rivets me to the subject.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">What do you think that Bigfoot or Sasquatch really
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; It’s a tough question to answer
without having seen one myself or having examined a body. So simply based my research and countless
interviews I’ve done with people, I believe they are flesh and blood beings. Perhaps a relic hominid or some species of ape
with a higher level of intelligence than other animals. However improbable, they have managed to
elude capture for all these years due to their exceptional expertise at evasion
and survival.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN">4) Rockape; </span><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">I'm from North East Texas. Are there any locations
here you would consider a hot spot?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; I’m certainly familiar with this
area, since I live in Dallas-Fort Worth.
I would say that there’s several hot spots within a reasonable driving
distance. First would be the area of
Fouke, Arkansas. This is, of course, the
famed location of The Legend of Boggy Creek, and one that I’ve spent years
researching and writing about. I’ve investigated
many credible sightings in that area, one as recent as January 2014. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Another area would be along the Sulphur
River where it originates in Texas.
Areas near the town of Commerce have a long history of sightings in the
area, and according to a few recent tips, activity is still going on there.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">There’s Marion, Harrison, and Panola Counties
in East Texas where there’s been some very interesting sightings in the last
decade. I’ve personally interviewed
several witnesses that claim to have had close encounters in these counties.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Going north, there’s the Ouachita
Mountains which span from eastern Oklahoma to western Arkansas. Based on my research and travels there, I
consider it a prime and likely spot for Southern Sasquatch habitat.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">Do you associate Bigfoot with any paranormal
activity, such as UFOs, teleporting, telekinesis, etc.?,</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; There’s no doubt witnesses who
claim, and fully believe, that the creatures possess some sort of “paranormal
powers” such as the ability to “shimmer,” disappear, or to even communicate
with humans using telepathy, but this, to me, is even harder to swallow than
the notion of an undiscovered ape itself.
I’m not saying that it couldn’t be possible… just like Bigfoot itself, I
can’t disprove it, but I just personally don’t think this is the case based on
my knowledge at this point. A good many
witnesses have also reported seeing creatures fitting the description of
Bigfoot in the vicinity of UFOs, so that’s another branch of the puzzle. While I align with the theory that they’re
flesh and blood animals, I still remain open minded about the mystery until
more solid proof is available.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN"> 5) Doc <st1:place w:st="on">Holiday</st1:place>;
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">what steps are necessary to become a
cryptozoology advisor ?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; If you mean “cryptozoology advisor”
as in my role at Rue Morgue magazine, I was brought on board at the magazine
since they cover many cryptids in film and I have both a vast knowledge of
cryptozoology and horror film history.
In terms of being a “cryptozoologist” there’s no specific academic
qualifications to that title. I was
reluctant to call myself any such thing at first, but after awhile it was
something I was already being referred to as, and it certainly helps when
classifying my research and books.
Personally, I consider myself something of an investigative journalist
meets cryptid researcher, as I think my books reflect.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">given the popularity of BF in TV
that comes and goes , which has been a more lucrative
pursuit over the long term , BF or the paranormal / horror topics?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; For me, they’ve both been about
equal, although “lucrative” might not be the most accurate term. My work at the horror magazine Rue Morgue has
helped me make a living with writing and it’s been a fun way to combine my
knowledge of cryptozoology and horror pop-culture. But the subject of Bigfoot itself, in terms
of the search for an actual creature, has been more rewarding since I’m
passionate about that subject and my books seem to be popular. I don’t make much money per se, but the great
reviews and feedback I get from readers is rewarding unto itself. So I don’t look at either “horror” or “Bigfoot”
as one being more lucrative or trendy than the other, I just try to do what I
enjoy in life and hopefully scratch up enough of a living to support my family
along the way. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN">6) People Booger;</span><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">Who, or what group of
researchers/enthusiasts/hunters do you feel has/have the best chance of
finding/collecting/acquiring definitive proof of the species, if you believe it
will be done at all? </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; If we compare this to the successful
field of archeology, then chances are it will be some unexpected person who
finally brings in the proof. A deer
hunter, wildlife photographer, or field biologist, perhaps. Oftentimes it seems like the person who goes
in search of a specific thing comes up empty-handed. But a person who happens to be in the right
place at the right time will suddenly stumble onto the discovery of a lifetime.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN">7) Bipedalist; </span><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: Symbol; mso-ansi-language: EN;">·</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> </span><span lang="EN">What scared you so bad you did not want to visit
that cluster again? </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN">Not sure about the source of this
question. I can’t recall ever being
scared so that I wouldn’t return to a place.
I like the thrill of the outdoors.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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It’s certainly a good question to ponder as to whether human perception is
involved in either of these reported phenomenon. I’m not convinced that the eyeshine is purely
bioluminescent, but no doubt a Bigfoot’s eyes could reflect a light source just
as other animal’s eyes can. The chatter
that’s been alleged as Bigfoots communicating is extremely interesting. If the sounds are indeed coming from these
creatures, then it would strongly suggest they have some form of language. But without observing a Bigfoot actually speaking,
it’s hard to say for sure.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN">I haven’t.
Please refer to the answer in question 2) above.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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the most compelling sighting by another you have come across and why?<br />
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<b><i>Lyle;
For me the most compelling sighting is one that a friend of mine had in East
Texas back in 1989. In this instance, he
had a very close look at the creature, which offered him a good chance to study
it. The encounter is fully detailed in
my book, The Beast of Boggy Creek, but to summarize he was walking down a dirt
road one afternoon near his grandmother’s house when he heard something
approaching through the leaves. He
stopped, figuring he was about to see a large buck run across the road. But what emerged from the trees was not a
deer, it was an ape-like creature approximately seven-to-eight-feet tall with
dark, reddish-brown hair and weathered looking skin. At first it was running on
all fours, but upon seeing my friend, it stopped and rose up on two legs. He
could then see that it was, as he described it, “more human, than ape.” The creature stood there, within 9 yard of
him, for about 10 seconds before it turned and ran back into the woods.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">It’s a significant encounter to me since I
know they guy personally and I believe him to be telling the truth, and also
because he got such a close look.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; The best evidence I’ve personally
investigated is a footprint cast taken in southern Arkansas near Mercer
Bayou. It’s a large, five-toed track
with a good amount of detail that strongly suggests it was made by a Bigfoot. I also give this piece of evidence a high
credibility rating because of the way it was discovered and subsequently
handled. A local man and his son were
out hog hunting when his son noticed the trackway. When his father looked at the tracks, he knew
they weren’t made by a normal animal.
They didn’t have any sort of casting material with them, but the father
felt it would be a good idea to come back and make a cast. I had heard about this cast from some locals
in the area, but the guy had never sought publicity or showed it to very many
people. I was finally able to track down
the guy and examine it. Because he had
the track in his possession for about six years without ever seeking publicity
that told me he wasn’t trying to pull a hoax.
Plus, he was not out specifically looking for Bigfoot. He is simply a local guy who found something
strange in a place where it would be extremely unlikely that a hoaxer would
plant a trackway. His story was actually
featured on the Fouke Monster episode of Monsters and Mysteries in America which
I also appear on. In this case they did
a great job of recreating his account.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; I was once canoeing with a friend in
a bayou around 2:00 am in the morning when we heard a series of very distinct and
evenly spaced howls. At first it was hard
to tell just what it could be, but as it continued to howl at 45 second
intervals, we concluded that it wasn’t a typical animal. My partner is a former trapper from
Mississippi, so between the two of us, we were confident it wasn’t a coyote,
fox, cougar, bird, etc. After it stopped
howling, we canoed about one mile back to our camp. Upon arriving at the camp, suddenly the
animal howled again three successive times.
In this case it was right across the bayou channel from our camp! Had it followed us??</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">Lyle; Yes.
This is not for the purpose of shooting a Bigfoot, of course, but for
protection against other potentially dangerous animals. In the areas we frequent, there are numerous
wild hogs, gators, and even cougars. In
fact, just a few months ago about a dozen wild hogs came within 20 yards of our
camp at night. Luckily they were too busy
fighting amongst themselves to be concerned with us.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">I carry either my Smith & Wesson .357
magnum or Colt .45 1911.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN">Hey Lyle, Way back before my interest in
Bigfoot was sparked, I read a blog you did where you discussed your opinion of
Paranormal Reality TV (which was a great post, BTW.) In fact, it may have been
your blog that lead me to start researching the Bigfoot phenomenon! Thanks! (I think
lol)</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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and do you think they have helped or hindered efforts to obtain the truth about
Bigfoot? (If you even watch them).</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i>Lyle;
In the grand scheme of things</i></b><b><i><span lang="EN">,
I don’t think television can significantly hinder the discovery of the truth,
if it is truly out there. In other
words, if the creature is real, then proof will surface one day regardless of
how many of these shows air and what they cover. That being said, I think they can have some
influence on the subject of cryptids. On
one hand, by making the subject of Bigfoot more “socially acceptable” it might
lead a witness or person with good evidence to come forward whereas in the past
he/she would not. But on the other hand,
I’ve noticed that with the proliferation and popularity of these shows,
suddenly everybody is running around saying they saw a Bigfoot. This can muddy the waters of legitimate
research because I have to wade through more witnesses to find the ones that
are genuine. But in the end, the truth
is not about finding the right witness; it’s about finding tangible scientific
evidence. If I’m hiking in the Olympic
Peninsula, for example, and I run across a huge bone that looks like it could
belong to a Bigfoot, I pick it up and have it tested. If it comes back unknown primate, it doesn’t
matter if Finding Bigfoot had one season or ten seasons. The bone is either from an unknown animal
(Bigfoot) or not.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">I myself have participated in some of the
shows such as Monsters and Mysteries in America and Finding Bigfoot, which get
their share of criticism, but in all cases I’ve tried to present good quality
commentary and witness referrals which I think add to the subject. I don’t always have much control with
television productions, but I do my best.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span lang="EN">But ultimately, I love the subject of
Bigfoot and one reason I’m doing this today is because I used to watch a show
called In Search of… when I was a kid.
The same way that program inspired me to dedicate time, money, and
passion to cryptid research, is the same way something like Finding Bigfoot
will inspire a new generation and that can’t be all bad.</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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felt you could have been in danger?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><i>Lyle; A fellow researcher and I were canoeing very late at night in a
swamp when a huge gator came up and rolled over right next to our canoe. The canoe was 14 feet long, and it appeared
the gator was around the same length.
I’ve been around gators plenty and I don’t spook easily, but that’s one
time I pulled in my elbows and paddled the other direction!<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i>Thanks to everyone for the great questions and to Keith for compiling
them. If you want to find out more about
me or my books, check out my site at <a href="http://www.lyleblackburn.com/">www.lyleblackburn.com</a>. I often speak at events around the country,
so check my site for dates and places.
If you can make it out, it would be great to meet in person and discuss
more Bigfoot!<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i>Also, if you want to know more about my work on the Fouke Monster /
Legend of Boggy Creek case, please visit my Fouke Monster site at <a href="http://www.foukemonster.net/">www.foukemonster.net</a><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: red;"> Due to the logistic problems of getting this interview with Bob, I had to ask the help of my friend Thom Cantrall. Thom is a very good friend of Bob's and has regularly scheduled lunches with him near Bob's home. The interview was actually videoed to insure accuracy and transcribed verbatim from Bob. In addition, the format is in a dialog form and I have included most excerpts from the discussion from both men as to add authenticity to the interview. Also, there are a few questions that have been changed or omitted simply because it was a live interview and with that, were asked by Thom as he saw fit. He either changed to help get a better clarification or some were just missed during the very interesting dialog. I do think this interview was probably the most interesting interview I have seen Bob do and I hope all enjoy it. Thanks for the questions and again, apologies if your question was missed. I am sure we can do a follow up at another time. </span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I definitely did not think
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No I don't... I had no
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yes, I did somewhat.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I didn't know how much or what to expect.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Do you feel you would have retreated or shot the creature if it had turned
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yes, I do... I've always
said I feel I would have shot and I wasn't sure with something that size.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>At that time I was an excellent shot.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And I had 180 grain... 30'06 180 grain and
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>the tracks were...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I'm not sure what that means...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don't either what that
means.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The tracks were well acceptable
for tracks for what that type of soil was.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN;">4) ptangier – </span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Bob, have you had any other eye- witness events….have you had any close
non-visual events? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yes, I have. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><o:p> </o:p></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yes, one was on that
trip... (The trip Bob took on the Pacific Crest Trail when he rode from Mexico
to Canada the full length of the Pacific Crest Trail)<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One was on that trip... one
was up at Bumping... (Bumping Lake in the Cascade Mountains, just east of Mt.
Rainier in Washington)<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Gimlin: Are there currently any active Bigfoot field/academic
investigators that, in your opinion, are on the
cutting-edge of research or worthy of exceptional credibility? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>OK, I feel this way
particularly because I know the people individually and they are doing the
very, very best they can in the field research at this time.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There's been some, uh, uh, tremendous things
happen in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">6)
HairyWildMan - Bob,...the old saying goes "Hindsight is 20-20"....is
there anything(s) you wish that you had done differently...then,...... from the
beginning of your search....to the end result of having the footage of Patty? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, that's changed over
the years... Yes, there’s a lot of things I would have done differently the
first 35</i></b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">years.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The first thing was, I
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that!<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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have seen that you believe are real BF?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I haven't really witnessed
very many videos so the ones I have seen I leave an open book there of, it
looks pretty good but, uh... and I'm not going to say, “not quite good enough,”
but there's always that question now...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">What would
you consider to be the area most likely to encounter a BF these days?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, I've always said the
Olympic Peninsula (of Washington) in my opinion is a great area.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But, you're limited there for foliage and
also for rain so I, uh, have changed my mind somewhat over the years.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>used
to say over the years I think the Olympic Peninsula is your best shot.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, I strongly believe that now, maybe back
down in the Willow Creek area and that partic... that radius within a hundred
miles or fifty is probably as good a place as any because of the way everything
lies there... the mountain range and that close to the ocean and also the
rivers and uh, the privacy.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Just to add.. of the
places I've been that I've found, that southeastern Oklahoma area is absolutely
alive with them.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>See, that's it, I've never
been east to some of those places that I hear about so I don't really
know.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I've been to the Olympic
Peninsula, I've been to Bumping Lake and I've been in California and those have
always been.. uh... we've heard sounds... and somewhat... of course, the film
footage itself speaks for the California area.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>uh.. So that's my opinion as far as that part of it goes.</i></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Other than
your own encounter, what is your favorite BF report or incident?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">(didn’t ask
this one)<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">8)
Salubrious – Mr Gimlin, did seeing Patty change anything about how you see the
world?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Oh, definitely.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>'Cause I never... I was a … Basically I'm
telling the truth, I was a skeptic up til that time... That they must exist but
I was kinda like old Harry Truman, I had to see to totally believe.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>(interruption)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Anyway, at that particular time the only
thing I was going by was what Roger had talked to me about and played those
cassette tapes (Roger used to play cassettes of people's testimonies about
sightings when he and Bob were camped on their trail rides) that other... the
testimonials of other people.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I thought
Yes... they are probably there... there must be something there but I wanna see
it!<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">9) lightheart
- Mr. Gimlin did you hear Patty make any vocalizations of any kind?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">By this I
don't necessarily mean screams or yells typically associated with Bigfoot but
also grumbling noises at having been disturbed, snorts, etc.?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>If she did, I never heard
it... there were so many things were happening so quickly... uh, and the horses
moving... Roger moving... me trying to get settled in to help him in case I had
to...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It's like the case of the
old adage, when you're up to your tail in alligators, it's hard to remember
your initial objective was to drain the swamp...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Chuckle... That's right...
Exactly Thom... that is exactly it<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">10) Will –
Bob, have you been following the work of Bill Munns and what is your
opinion about it? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob: uh.. Well I.. When I met Bill Munns and found out what he was
doing... I met him and was really impressed... and for what he's doing at this
present time... I don't know exactly... I will know this weekend but I take my
hat off to Bill Munns for what he's done actually for my credibility part of it
and so, to me, Bill Munns is really high on my list.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Very very high on my list.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I'll echo that... very
high on mine too... He has done fantastic work...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He has indeed.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<o:p> </o:p><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Have you
seen any other BF photos that look a lot like what you saw?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, some have come about
as, uh, close as I that I could still identify that and I, uh, really, uh, most
of the ones I see show a face and, uh, and the body part of it, uh, will
deviate a little and I understand that there is going to be differences in body
of bigfoot, so therefore, I say whatever they saw and took a picture of or
described is probably as accurate as my description of … of … of Patty, and...
but I did she her face very clearly and some of those are very, very close.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<o:p> </o:p><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">11)
Sunflower - Bob, Have you seen anyone, at any time, able to duplicate exactly
what you saw that day in 1967?????<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No, I haven't seen anyone
that totally duplicated it because with... when Patty walked away with that
tremendous amount of muscle underneath that hair moving, uh, it's pretty hard
to duplicate that, uh, in a picture or anything else in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You're right, that was...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">12)
Bi-pedalist - Mr. Gimlin, besides the adrenaline rush and fear factor
operating did you still get the hair on your neck rising that day in 1967?
<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, I definitely did,
yes, I, uh, uh, I finally realized these creatures do exist and here's one
right in front of me... walking away from me with a size and muscle that I
never dreampt that any creature could ever have..<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><o:p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Also, you
have been to many conferences and have met many people and have many friends in
this field many with eyewitness accounts. What do you make of the
"high strangeness" accounts that people share with you, especially
those that occur before and after sighting events? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">(Didn’t ask
this one)<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">13)
simplyskyla - How many bigfoot sightings has he had in his lifetime?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We covered that... (We had
covered the question of the number of sightings he's had... three.. Patty, the
one on the Pacific Crest Trail and one at Bumping Lake)<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Was patty
the closest he ever got? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, es.. this is an
estimated distance... the closest I got was when I first saw her and I'd say
that was probably 60 feet... uh.. just a ball park figure was 60 feet or less.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">14)
Chelefoot - Mr. Gimlin, Have you ever had any doubts that Patty was anything
other than 100 percent real?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Never have... Uh, with all
the litigation that's come out about that... with the different people saying
they were in a suit down there... I knew in my own mind and watching that and
being right there that if couldn't have been a man in a suit</i></b>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">If you could
change one thing about that day in Bluff Creek, what would it be and why?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That people earlier on the
film footage would have accepted it... what's been proven in the past and left
me and my wife alone for the first 35 years.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">One last
question from me... Do you think there is any possibility that there is a
question about that day at Bluff Creek that you haven't been asked
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Not really.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It seems like I have been asked so many
different questions.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>… I meant... I think
possibly that I have forgotten some of... some of the most basic events because
of my age and because of the injuries I have sustained over the years</i></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><o:p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></o:p></span></div>
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– Mr Gimlin, there were sources that said you had Bob Heironimus’s<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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Chico at Bluff Creek, can you confirm that? <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Okay... I did have Bob
Heronimous's horse because Roger had, apparently, borrowed that horse from Bob
Heronimous.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>'Cause I never got the
horses together to go.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Roger gathered up
the horses... I had the transportation and I knew the horse.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I'd been around the horse before... Big,
stout... good roping horse and I think Bob used him back in those days to rope
on but Bob Heronimous actually had that horse early in some of the work he was
doing for Roger as well as myself where Roger was trying to get together a film
to generate revenue to go on an expedition.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">(rephrased
question) Mr Gimlin, you look amazing for your age, what do you eat and how do
you stay this fit? <br />
(Not asked, but Bob stays very busy and still cowboying!)<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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- Bob, did you ever consider the possibility that Patty was trying to lead you
away from her young?</span><span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"> <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Well, I never had enough
time to even think about that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I just
knew she was walking away... didn't even know that they suspected a young or
other one in because at that particular time, I knew about the three different
sizes of tracks we'd been called down there for but I hadn't... I wasn't … I
was tired from the long distances we'd been riding at the time we'd been down there...
so I never gave it any thought about her trying to lead me away from
anything...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">The PGF is
considered the gold standard of BF evidence, is there any other video, photo,
etc. that you find impressive evidence?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No.</i></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I say you ought to take a
good look at the film footage and realize that there is gonna possibly be
people out there try to make a story out of this.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Forever that they're gonna say they were in a
suit in northern California when Roger and I were there... and it's been done
more than one time as far as I know... in fact, I didn't even realize that Greg
Long had had somebody... a big guy, uh, 6 or 7 years before he got ahold of Bob
Hermonimous and tried to prove he was in a suit down there.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So, You know, it kinda is a... a two sword,
double sword or double edged question for me because I don't really know... the
thing is... is... I just know that's what happened and I'm going by what
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Right<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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– Mr Gimlin, Upon seeing "Patty", what was your first thought? What
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There's a great big thing
and they really do exist.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>that's the first thought I
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Thom:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The first... first time I
saw one here to there and yeah... standing there looking at him and said “where
are the experts now?...”<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Exactly, Yeah... Well, I
thought “All doubt is gone...”<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><o:p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> </span></o:p></span><span lang="EN" style="line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">18) </span></span><a href="http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/user/65-bf2011hbmay/"><span lang="EN" style="color: windowtext; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">bf2011HBMay</span></span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span lang="EN" style="line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> -<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Even though you and Roger agreed not to
shoot a Sasquatch, did you ever think in the back of your mind that it would
benefit the world to have a specimen for scientific study despite the
agreement? Thanks. (Question not asked, apologies Henry)<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;">19) AaronD – (Slightly rephrased</span><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">) Bob, have you had any
encounters with anything that even COULD be a bf since 1967? (Covered this
above)<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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already said it was NOT an ape he saw in 1967 (PGF subject), could you have
guessed what it was?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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could not... all I knew was it was a big, hairy covered human like creature
walking away with a... with a great stride and a great, uh, amount of muscle
mass and so, that's the only thing I could come up with.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I had no idea...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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all the sightings that people have had, and all of the... all of everything
that has happened since 1967 that's given me more strength about that than uh,
than prior.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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any idea why your 47 y/o piece of evidence is still the most convincing of any
that sasquatches exist? Like why hasn't something been since found to better
prove?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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questions in my mind about that, but, you know, there's no way to really
address them, 'cause in my opinion, uh, there's been a lot of effort to... to
get more evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The only other thing
I could come up with.. I have no proof... their ability to stay away, uh, from
the camcorders, whatever, and basically I can figure out a little bit of my own
personal opinions why they avoid human beings so much now... especially modern
human beings... whereas we've heard the native Americans had close contact with
them as if they were just part of the, uh, they</i></b> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">wouldn't bother, uh... they were
there, they belonged to Mother Earth... And we start shooting at them or we
start to gather evidence they really exist and they're just trying to live
their own life and be left alone.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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– Mr Gimlin, I know you told me in the past her tracks went across the
entire sand bar. My question is do you recall roughly how many were relatively
good clear tracks ? 12 to 20 ? 20 to 40 ? 40 plus ?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I covered as many as I could with
all the material I covered as many as I could with all the material I could
gather off the dead tree.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There was a
pretty good line of tracks there... uh... Matter of fact is, I can't recall
just how long that, uh, type of soil was there but I'd say probably, uh, a
hundred yards almost... at least 150 feet of that same type of soil (silted in)
that had gathered up underneath that logjam or behind that logjam.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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gravel.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>… You know, and my error was
then, I wished Roger and I would have measured that... but, you know, you just
don't think of all that...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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October 20<span style="font-size: small;"><sup>th</sup> the day's a little short already... and you're dealing
with darkness early.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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from a professional and... and.. and apparently Roger was too... We did what we
thought was the best thing at the time.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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- Mr Gimlin, There have been claims that there were other BF type animals at
the sighting location. Did you ever see any other animals in addition to the
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about 21 days down there.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I never could
decide whether it was the last day or so in September or the 1<span style="font-size: small;"><sup>st</sup> of
October because we'd been down there approximately 3 weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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Yeti – (slightly rephrased below) Mr Gimlin, I would like to ask if you recall
any additional little things that Roger said to him...(that he hasn't
previously mentioned)....the night of the filming...and on the following day,
on their way back home?<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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recall any additional little things that Roger said to him that (you) haven't
previously mentioned on the night of the filming and on the following day on
their way back home.. uh, you know.. Personal type of things... what were his
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day on the way home, uh, ok.. that has to be explained because there was no
“next day”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That next day was trying to
get out of that area with a storm in there... and then, all night I drove and
Roger slept most of the time while I did the driving.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So... the only thing that was talked about
that night after we got back to the truck is that, uh, what... what really
happened that day and what he saw through the camera and what I felt I saw and
smelled.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So, Therefore, each thing that
we talked about varied just a little and then, of course we went on to sleep...
the next morning it was raining and, uh, things just kind of broke loose from
there.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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odor... I thought it had kind of a... a skunky, mest... musty, skunky type of
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today, I would not ride across the creek with the horse... I would try my best
to act real submissive and get as close to her as I possibly could instead of
all the scramble that went on that day.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Because if... if that happened to me again, I would hope that Roger
didn't have a camera and was running after her to take a picture and I could
try my best to get as close as I could and act submissive like... I want to be
a friend... That's what I'd like to do and that's what I'd like to do today if
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<span style="color: red;">NEW!!! Scott Nelson Interview 03/26/2014</span></div>
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<span style="color: red;"> Hi all!!! I know most of everyone is ready to see Winter finally leave and Spring begin! I like many of you are ready to get outside and enjoy the outdoors no matter if it is Squatching, walking, hiking or any other outside activity you enjoy.</span></div>
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<span style="color: red;"> Just like the Ron Morehead interview, there were some great questions posed to Scott. He called me many times in this process because he wanted to make sure the format worked well and he could make sure to get all of the questions answered to all's satisfaction. Again, many thanks to Scott to enable us to ask questions to a man in my opinion, is the most qualified to help us to learn about this unique and remarkable enigma. </span></div>
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Scott and thank you very much for agreeing to answer questions from our forum
members. These will be submitted in our blog as an ongoing learning process to
help understand what research is being done from some of the most notable
researchers in the BF Community. We appreciate your time to help us learn more
about the BF/Sasquatch People. <o:p></o:p></div>
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1)
Southernyahoo - <span style="color: #282828;">Have you contacted any Phoneticists
in regards to the various recordings you now have? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">Reason for asking.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">With the perception of language in the recordings and
that it was done with a human like vocal system, the phonemes containing quantal
vowels can be studied, measured and quantified using the relationships of F1
and F2 formants. With the three quantal vowels or cardinal vowels being attributed
to humans only among mammals according to Anthropologists, this would be quite
telling.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i>You are quite
right about this and I am sure that someday these studies will be done on
Sasquatch Language, just as they have been done on Human Language. Phoneticists and those specializing in
Linguistics are the very scientists that Ron spoke of in his interview, and as
of yet, they want nothing to do with these sounds. I have offered to present my study to some of
the most eminent Linguistics Specialists in the world, but have been rejected
every time due to concerns for their academic reputations. One gentleman in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region> wanted us to box everything
up and send it to him, but with a little research I discovered that he was a
professional skeptic with a definite agenda.
I have always been willing to present the study to anyone who will
listen, and of course we are always looking for others who are willing to take
the same academic risks that we have.</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">2) Gigantor - Mr Nelson, Could you please explain in
layman terms why you think language exists in the recordings you've heard?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i> It might be best to start here with my
arguments for the three conclusions that I drew almost immediately upon hearing
the Sierra Sounds for the first time.
Probably the best way to do that is to copy some of the notes I use when
I present my study at conferences and symposiums:<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="color: #282828;"> </span> After that first quick review of the
samplings of the Sierra Sounds, there were three facts that were immediately
evident to me: (1) The vocalizations are not human (as we currently define
human); (2) The creatures were speaking in a complex language (by the human
definition of language); and (3) The
tapes could not have been faked.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> First:
The voices are not human. The
creatures on the Berry/Morehead Tapes are producing sounds that humans cannot
make. Their vocal range is far too
great; much lower and much higher than humans are capable of producing. This fact is corroborated by the Kirlin
study. Additionally, the volume and resonance of many of the vocalizations they produce is far beyond
the ability of humans. However, the most
striking element to note is the prosody of utterance, or the tempo at which
each utterance is delivered, as well as the speed at which the conversational
turns take place, with the creatures almost stepping on each other in their
discourse. For the majority of the
utterances, the rate of deliverance is at least twice that of humans.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> My second conclusion: It is a complex, human-like language. What did I recognize in the vocalizations
that told me that it was language? First
are the articulated phonemes (individual units of phonetic sound) so similar to
our own that it must be assumed they are produced by the same apparatus that we
possess, namely, the tongue, the teeth and the lips, along with the entire
tracheal tree, oral cavity and nasal cavity.
I have isolated 39 different phonemes, all common to human
language. Phonemes combine to form
morphemes, or individual units of meaning which we commonly call syllables or
minimal words. These are evident
throughout the tapes, repeated in conversational turns and morpheme streams
characteristic only of language. We find
discourse (conversational turns of
utterance); query inflection and direct response; imperative or persuasive inflections;
expression of emotion, intimidation,
negation and even ritual. These vocalizations exhibit characteristics
that are conventional, automatized,
arbitrary and creative; all of
which are properties of human language. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> In brief, there are so many
characteristics of human language evident in the tapes that we must assume that
even those elements that cannot yet be known, such as grammatical categories,
are also present in this language.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> Finally to my third conclusion: The tapes could not have been faked. While serving as a crypto-linguist working
with Naval Intelligence, I trained in every form of deceptive voice
communication imaginable, including slowing the tape; speeding it up;
modulation of tone and pitch; playing tape backward and distortion of every
kind. None of these techniques is
evident here. I was a Russian analyst so
I trained in all of the Soviet tactics of deception. They are the best in the world at deceptive
communication techniques, but even their
best effort could not have produced these vocalizations; and certainly, no one
could have done it in 1974. What
initially led me to conclude that the tapes were not fake, is that in numerous
instances the humans and the creatures are speaking at the same time; vocally
stepping on each other. This cannot be
done without leaving trace evidence (also confirmed by the Kirlin Study). <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> At this juncture, to claim that these
vocalizations were faked, one would have to argue that a secret cabal, comprised
of several ingenious conspirators, was so determined to deceive the world, that
they invented their own language, modulated their vocalizations to frequencies
above and below the ability of humans, harassed a small group of well-armed
hunters, over a period of several weeks in successive years and threw in
numerous cognate words and expressions to boot.
It is now more reasonable to defend the existence of an undocumented creature
than it is to believe in such a conspiracy.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">3) Doc <st1:city w:st="on">Holiday</st1:city> - If<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"> there is a language involved does it sound similar
to any known languages and if so which one? <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><i>When
I first stumbled onto the Sierra Sounds, labeled “Samurai Chatter” on a
website, they did indeed sound Asian due to the rapidly staccato nature and
deep-throated delivery. I immediately
took the sounds to a Native-Japanese colleague of mine who said, “It sounds
like an ancient form of Japanese, but I can’t understand a single word.” I have since played the tapes to native
speakers of virtually every human language group, to include Russian, Spanish,
Persian, and several Native-American, African and <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Pacific</st1:city> <st1:city w:st="on">Island</st1:city></st1:city>
Languages. All of these native speakers
have heard “words” that are familiar to them.
This has led me to conclude that it is natural for us to listen for
morpheme streams that have meaning for us; however, we cannot conclude that
these are cognatic words and phrases from human languages.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><i> If Sasquatch is as intelligent and
observant as we think he is, it would also be natural for him to assimilate
parts of our language. If his very
survival depends on avoidance of humans, would he not want to know what we are
thinking and planning? He certainly
would and for the same reasons that I did what I did in the Navy, “Know Thine Enemy,” <o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><i> If Sasquatch followed us to the <st1:city w:st="on">New World</st1:city> over the Bearing Straits, he would likely carry
remnants of Asiatic languages. His
language would have evolved along the periphery of Native-American
culture. Spanish has been a dominant
language on this continent for more than 500 years and English for more than
400. Therefore, I believe that Sasquatch
could be using elements from all of these influences, as well as his own
language system that would be very different from known languages. </i></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828; line-height: 16.8pt;">4) Chris - </span><span style="color: #282828; line-height: 16.8pt;">Mr. Nelson, Why did you ever decide to make a separate
Sasquatch Phonetic Alphabet, when all of the sounds can be phonetically
transcribed using the current International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). The IPA
contains all sounds that can be made with a vocal tract. Why did you feel it
necessary to make a new alphabet?</span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i> The IPA is extremely complicated for any
non-specialist to understand, using many symbols that look nothing like
“letters” in any common language and which for most researchers (including
myself) are impossible to find on any keyboard, let alone pronounce. Without
specialized training in Linguistics, the IPA would be useless. Therefore, the quick answer is: I decided to
create a phonetic alphabet that is more accessible to a broad spectrum of
researchers; knowing that the real evidence for Sasquatch Language would not
come from academics who have never stepped foot in the woods, but from the
front-line dedicated lay-persons who invest virtually everything they have to
spend week after week out there amongst these beings. <o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i> I utilized variations of modern English
Reformed Phonetic Alphabets as well as elements of the International NATO
Transliteration Alphabet with which all military Crypto-Linguists are
familiar. This makes for a much more
research-friendly tool, very useful for those of us who are doing the hard
work. We will let the academics do what
they do when we are finished.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">5) See-Te-Cah-NC - Mr. Nelson, What were the key things
you noticed about the Sierra Sounds speech that clued you in that it was
possibly language? Do you think that the Sasquatch "language"
can/will eventually be translated into an existing human language? Is there a
possibility that the sounds (language) were produced by a human?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i>There is no
possibility that the sounds were produced by a human. Please see my answer to number 2 for my
argument as well as what is it that makes this language.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i> “Translation” can never truly take place
until meaning can be confirmed by the speaker, so that is something that will
not be happening anytime soon.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">6) Chelefoot - Mr.
Nelson, Are there examples of other audio recordings that have demonstrated the
same language characteristics that you have identified in the Sierra
recordings?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;"><i><b> I have just a couple of short clips that
fit this description, but nothing of the clarity and extent of the Sierra
recordings. That, of course, is our Holy
Grail.<o:p></o:p></b></i></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">7) WV Footer - <span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Mr. Nelson,
you have concluded that a distinct language was detected. As an expert in your
field, do you think the communications are of a hostile nature, or maybe an
effort on the Squatches Part to communicate with humans?<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<b><i> If we presume that Sasquatch possesses
similar emotional sensibilities as humans and would express them in a similar
fashion, then indeed we find emotional utterances throughout the Berry/Morehead
recordings. We can infer much of this
from modulations in pitch, tone and degree of agitation in the voice, and from
the meaning of presumed cognatic expressions.
Since emotion is so often swayed by external environmental stimuli, it
is easy to understand why the range of emotions expressed by the creatures
during this confrontation between species, would be quite narrow: apprehension, aggravation, and hostility
are most common. However, there are many
instances where curiosity, wonder and even humor are expressed; most notably at BI-1:30.19 (Berry Tape) where
I posit that the male creature is laughing.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b><i> We are quite sure that on the Morehead
Tape, the creatures are attempting to slow down their utterances in order to
communicate with the humans.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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JanV - Mr. Nelson, To me many purported Sasquatch recordings sound like
Native American languages. Do you think there is a connection? Do you have any
theories regarding this?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><i>Please
see my answer to number 3.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">9) SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT - Mr</span></span><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">. Nelson: Have you analyzed
any audio recordings where the BF speaks a known human language that seems
authentic? I would imagine there are a lot of hoaxes out
there. If a recording seems authentic and not human in origin,
is there any way to determine from the recording if the speaker
is communicating in a human language known to it or if it is
just mimicry? Randy R<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><b><i> I have received many audio clips
that certainly are attempts to deceive, others that are just mis-identified
animal sounds and still others that simply cannot be determined to be outside
of human ability to produce. The rest of
your question I believe I answered in (2)
and (3) above. <o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">10) BobbyO - </span><span style="color: #282828;">Mr Nelson, can you please clarify that when you use the
word " language ", you are not describing languages of the human
species which are divided geographically such as English, Spanish, Mandarin etc
but are describing the word as a form of communication like many animals are
supposed to have, like Orca's for example ?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">Or, are you saying that this “language " is more
similar on a technical level to actual human languages than what other forms of
communication in the animal world is said to be ?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #282828;"><i>What is evident
on the Berry/Morehead Tapes is language by the human definition of it. Virtually all of the phonemes recovered are common
to human languages, therefore, we have to assume they are articulated with the
same apparatus humans have. Please see
above where I expand on this.</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="color: #282828;">11) NCBRR - <span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Is there a
correlation between the speed of a spoken language and intelligence of the
speaker and if so what does that say about BF's IQ?<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><b><i> I am not qualified to judge on
this issue. Humans speak in such a wide
range of delivery rates and certainly, we speak quickly when we are in a
heightened state of excitement. I do not
believe that all humans who speak rapidly are more intelligent than those who
speak more slowly. In fact, I have found
that highly intelligent people tend to slow their delivery, giving some thought
to what they are going to say and wanting to insure comprehension by the
listener.<o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<b><span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><i> I believe, however, that Sasquatch is a
highly intelligent and even sentient being, since it is by our having the
ability for Language that we define ourselves as sentient beings.<o:p></o:p></i></span></b></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">12) KBHunter – Mr Nelson, when you first
heard the Sierra Sounds as your son was doing his research project on Bigfoot,
what was the first thing you thought when you heard it? Did you think it was a
potential hoax? Also, when was the WOW moment that you knew they were real?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The “WOW” moment was immediate
and there was no possibility that it was a hoax.</i><o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">13) KBHunter – What kind of advice on
equipment can you give researchers that want to do their own recordings? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><o:p> <b><i>Scott:</i></b></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;"><b><i>
I am certainly no sound equipment
expert. Ron and I have had good service
from the ZOOM H2 voice recorder.</i><o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">14) KBHunter – When people do “call
blasting” using recordings like the Sierra Sounds or others, is there a
potential danger of what they are telling the other BF/Sas? Is there a chance
the sounds could be “not so nice” and would create a potential bad encounter?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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There is always the chance that
some of the utterances on the Berry/Morehead Tapes are not so nice. I have always thought that call-blasting was
rather silly and ineffective. I am quite
convinced that they are much smarter than we ever wanted to believe and that
they cannot be fooled for long by call blasting. In fact, I think it drives them away. I think it is much more effective to just go
out into the woods, do the things that we silly humans normally do, be
non-threatening and there-by invite their curiosity.</i><o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: #282828;">15) KBHunter - Thanks so much for your
time, can you please pass along any future conferences or events that you will
be speaking?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #282828; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;"><b><i> I
have nothing big scheduled for the near future – some blog-talk appearances and
a couple of events here in Kansas City (and of course my own efforts to get out
in the woods and see if we can’t get guys to talk to us).</i><o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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I want to thank Ron for his time for this interview. The attempt for the new interview format is to allow participation from the forum members and to help provide insightful information from some of the people who have contributed a great deal to the BF Community. I also want to thank all for your help in the great questions you had for Ron! </h3>
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<span style="color: #282828;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><em>Did
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="color: #282828;">Ron: </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: #282828;">Yes, however, you’re probably referencing the sounds Al Berry
taped, which seemed very close to the mic.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>His microphone was remotely placed about 40 feet up from our
shelter.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We think the creature was
behind one of the huge trees there.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Each
time he would stick his head out of an opening, made earlier in the roof, the
sounds would stop.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>On that night, he saw
nothing…nobody did.</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="color: #282828;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282828; line-height: 115%;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Ron:<strong> Because of the unknown, it’s difficult to not
feel a bit insecure; however, after we didn’t shoot our guns and they didn’t
come crashing through the shelters’ walls, we became less fearful. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s when we began to look forward to the
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<span style="background: white; color: #282828; line-height: 115%;"><span style="color: #282828;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Ron:<strong> I don’t consider myself a film analyzer…some very well could be,
but I usually let other accredit or dismiss.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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<em style="line-height: 115%;">Do you find it frustrating in the years that have
passed since the recordings that the research community has made little to no
impact on the scientific acceptance of the animal you recorded?</em></div>
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within, and how they need to stay inside that boundary of proof, I don’t have a
problem with it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They must assume it’s
just another wild unidentified animal running around in the woods until
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after we went into the shelter and closed the opening.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It wasn’t until 1974 that they became
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the remote microphones.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don’t know how
far from the mics they may have been—different times, different distances, but
often seemingly very close.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Great Apes
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<span style="background: white; color: #282828; line-height: 115%;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Ron:<strong> Scott and I have been to the Sierra camp together, but he’s never been able to capture more corroborative sounds.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Scott often gets inundated with folks sending him sounds of yells, grunts, or moans, but so far he has not received any sounds that have a morpheme stream (several words that make up a sentence) which would allow him to state that the source had language.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He uses our Sierra recordings as a comparison. <o:p></o:p></strong></span></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282828; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Ron: <strong>Government agencies do not take this subject seriously…at least not publically. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Over the years we tried many times to obtain help from qualified institutions.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Most, however, put us in the looney-tunes box and wouldn’t respond seriously.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We actually paid a few to try and give us an unbiased report.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One told us they thought they heard words being spoken and therefore discredited the recordings (but kept the money).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Another told Al Berry that the original recorder he sent to them was not the recorded that recorded the sounds…that was just wrong, but kept they money.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Another told me that they’d tell us what made the sounds in three days, guaranteed.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They wanted $5,000 up front…didn’t fall for that one.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></strong></span></span></div>
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<span style="background: white; color: #282828; line-height: 115%;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Ron:<strong> Larry Johnson (one of the hunters) had a fairly good sighting from just a few feet away on a moonlit night, from a small hole within the shelter’s wall.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He claimed it was over 8 feet tall, broad shoulders, and no neck.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Most of the sightings have been brief…never has one of these creatures been caught napping.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My daughter (Rhonda) has had very good sightings.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>She described one as being about 7 foot tall, thin but with broad shoulders, and turned with its head and body together—no neck.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The one I got a glimpse of was the night I recorded them while Bill McDowell and I were by our stove.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was moving so fast I could not make out any details.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></strong></span></span></div>
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interested in reading a more detailed account of the Sierra Sounds incidents,
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“Voices in the Wilderness,” is my book which I recently released that includes
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<br />BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-84923115601100768882013-04-16T13:37:00.002-04:002013-04-16T13:37:47.023-04:00Source Comes Forward<div class="tr_bq">
<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Steven Streufert has released a statement from the source of the conversation in my previous article "Did Bigfoot Once Have Wings?"</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">It can be found <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/smartbigfoot/permalink/562645627100880/" target="_blank">here:</a></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">A statement from Rhettman Mullis re. the revelations re. Ketchum today:</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">I sent Melba a sample through Tim Olson. I was first told it was viable.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Then I began conversations with Sykes and Nekaris to do this DNA project in January of 2012. By March it was going public early. At the same time I invited Melba to work with Sykes as the projects need to have replication anyway</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">That summer before (2011) I had invited Melba and Sally to become a part of Bigfootology and they both, understandably declined for the moment.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Melba did not really answer me about working with Sykes...ignored me about it if I recall correctly.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">It was soon after that I had this conversation with Melba on March 12th, 2012, and frankly after the conversation I was wondering if I had done the right thing.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">It was a little while later that the project with Sykes became a go and Melba continued to ignore me about it. It was also at that time when our sample was no longer viable, and then later we were told that we never submitted a sample.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">My conversation with Melba was a friendly conversation that had a great deal to do with theology as in addition to being a behavior scientist, I am an ordained pastor and I found her conclusions highly questionable and from a psychologist point of view I found her persona highly concerning.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Afterwards, frankly, I was okay with her not wanting to work with us because I did not want to deal with that since I work with clients like that weekly and I like working with healthy-persona people outside of work.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">But I am about the science first, and I thought it would be a good collaboration between her and Sykes if the science and methodology is sound.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">I am not qualified to determine the authenticity of genetic science and that is why I turned her paper over to Sykes and Nekaris and both did not respond favorably to the science in the paper. Genetics is not my area of expertise.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">This was my attempt to push science forward and bring key-players together, which is what I do, I am a bridge-person, always bringing peace and people together, and some have seen me do this firsthand.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">I have never attacked her privately or publicly. I just want her to maintain scientific integrity. I have always told people that I do not care who gets credit for the discovery, just that it is done properly. So no one can question the integrity of the finding and that is what has happened in Melba's project. Everything is now questionable.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">Statement regarding the release of the relevant parts of the conversation:</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; line-height: 17px; text-align: left;">For over two years I have encouraged Melba to maintain the integrity of her project and hoped for the best for her and her potentially-historic project. I withdrew that support last summer when multiple situations came forth and I began to see questionable actions and practices by Melba in her project. I maintained my silence and publicly continued to encourage her to do the right thing, but the situation has continued to decline. I am okay to stand on the sidelines for the purpose of keeping the peace and letting someone make their own bed of self-sabotage. In this case, however, it has become a larger problem when innocent people get attacked because they are being honest and I continue to say nothing while holding the evidence of her own words. Because I hold the evidence of her own words and I stand by and not let the truth be known then I become duplicitous in that attacking of honest people and that goes against the grain of who I am as a scientist and as a pastor. By releasing this I am not attacking Melba as that is never my intent, I am merely letting her own words show her for what she really thinks and what she is really doing in order to protect the many others who have been ruthlessly attacked and accused of being liars when it is not the case.</span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Let me preface this article by saying that it is heavily credited to anonymous sources. All of them supplied screenshot evidence to substantiate their claims, although not all of them allowed the publication of the screenshots. All of the screenshots are from direct conversations with Dr. Melba Ketchum, so they aren’t speculation or hearsay. I will paraphrase the content from the screenshots I did not have permission to publish to protect the identity of the sources. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Remember when the Angel/Alien DNA rumors were flying around? </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Robin Lynne </span>denied them as can be read at <a href="http://bizarrezoology.blogspot.com/2012/11/claims-of-hominin-hybrids-living-today.html">http://bizarrezoology.blogspot.com/2012/11/claims-of-hominin-hybrids-living-today.html</a>.<br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><b><i>“We have not said that it has angel DNA . That was not said by anyone on our team, but someone else on the outside.</i></b></span><i> </i><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px; text-decoration: underline;"><b><i>That is very much a false rumor.</i></b></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>”</i></span></blockquote>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><a href="http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/11/melba-ketchum-we-have-not-said-that-it.html" target="_blank">Some even defended it </a>by saying Angel DNA was an old term used to refer to unknown DNA. </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">But then I read this: <a href="http://weeast-infection.com/MKetchum.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Conversations with Dr. Ketchum - PDF version</a></span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">I’m not going to bash someone’s beliefs. As a religious person myself, a lot of these theories have often crossed my mind. The problem is that if this is her belief, why the denial? If this really is what you believe them to be, why run away from it? And does the belief matchup with the science? </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">They share a 3% homology to human (which is closer to the ~80% homology of Lemur than the ~90% homology of apes) which is explained in an interesting theory by Dr. Ketchum. She said she believes after the initial hybridization, they stopped breeding with humans and interbred the human out of them. At time of hybridization they would be 50% human. How much time would it take to remove 47% of the homology?</span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">I am openly asking any geneticists and biologists to comment on the possibility of the above, given the timeline. Would it be possible for a hybridization to take place, and then remove said hybridization from only the nuDNA leaving the mtDNA completely intact? </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Can you even claim something with only 3% homology to human is human? The claims of 100% human mtDNA makes it interesting, but Dr. Ketchum knew this. She specifically said the mtDNA would have to be made more important. The statement didn’t go deeper, but it leaves a list of endless possibilities. Was the mtDNA 100% human as claimed, or was it just presented that way? The absence of the full sequences as well as full DNA reports leaves the possibility of wrong-doing on the table. I am in no way accusing Dr. Ketchum of doing so, but this magnifies the problems of not having everything included in the paper. When you express the need for something to be made more important, it invites questions and scrutiny. Science should dictate what is seen by those reviewing the data. Not the author. </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">This also explains the recent jump to the samples from Peru. Dr. Ketchum said she believes they might be the paternal donor. For more information on the Peru aspect of the studies, <a href="https://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/texas-dna-specialist-writes-that-sasquatch-is-a-modern-human-being/" target="_blank">you can read the OTLS! blog</a>. </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">I still invite Dr. Ketchum to come forward and discuss this now that it’s on the table. There’s no more denying. It’s out and I think you’ll find that there’s a lot of people that will agree with those theories. The problem is proving those theories. Even the 3% homology isn’t explained or proven. The paper claims they are a human/unknown hybrid without any explanation at all about the reverse evolution back to the 3%. The missing steps need to be explained and show data. This isn’t just about a hybridization hypothesis anymore. Why was that entire de-evolution to a previous form never even mentioned in the paper? </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">As I pointed out at the end of my last article, I made a mistake in my notes. Instead of simply deleting my mistake when I realized it, I did a strike-through and left it up so that others would see that I am accountable for my mistakes. I will never claim to be perfect and if I do make a mistake I expect to be called out on them. She has since edited the paper and removed Sarah Bollinger from the co-author list. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">And as I also pointed out, there have been mistakes and contradictions in Dr. Melba Ketchum’s Bigfoot DNA study. I don’t point them out as a personal attack, I point them out because finding the truth is the most important thing in my job as part of this community. When I felt I was being spun after some rather simple and softball questions that I was allowed to ask, I felt the whole truth wasn’t being told.</span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The following will be a list of some of those mistakes and contradictions only since the paper was released. Dr. Ketchum is more than free to respond and explain to us why these took place. </span><br />
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<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">It begins with her signing up on Zoobank on Oct. 25, 2012. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The name of her paper and the species name is registered on Zoobank on Nov. 18, 2012. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology is registered on Zoobank on Jan. 9, 2013. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">A Scholastica page for this journal is created on Jan. 11, 2013. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Denova Scientific Journal is registered on godaddy.com on Feb. 4, 2013. </span></li>
<li style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Denova Scientific Journal publishes Novel North American Hominins after she obtains journal and renames it. </span></li>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The editor of the journal is unknown. The editor of the paper is Dr. Rayford Wallace. He’s not a medical or scientific doctor though. His doctorate is in Ministry. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">I won’t even get into Casey Mullins and the blogger site that showed up weeks after the paper had been released. The timeline above is troubling. The sudden rush not only seems like a mistake, if was going to raise enough eyebrows to actually look into the rush. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Dr. Ketchum has repeatedly claimed that there was obscene scientific bias against her paper. That was the entire reason for having to purchase the journal. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Darren Naish was actually one of those reviewers that rejected the paper. Around the 72nd minute, they start discussing the paper and Darren makes the reveal. He claims there was no bias and reveals the real reason the paper was denied. He would have been thrilled to spread the news that Bigfoot was real. But he said the paper simply did not prove the claims it was setting forth. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">As I laid out in my last article, Dr. Ketchum claims there’s no more data, while the paper says otherwise. She supplied 2.7Mbp, 2.1Mbp, and 0.53??Mbp for her 3 genomes. A single genome should be approximately 3Gbp or even 135Mbp for just the chromosome 11 section. That’s a substantial chunk of missing data. </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">When I contacted co-authors and contributors I was met with the similar response from all of them that bothered to answer. Here is one of those emails: </span><br />
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Thank you for your email concerning the sequencing that we provided to Dr. Ketchum and co-workers. This work was performed as a fee for service. We have not been involved in the analysis of the results. Further, we are not at liberty and have no intention of discussing the laboratory results that we obtained with anyone but Dr. Ketchum or her colleagues. I would suggest that you direct your questions to her. Our core has only provided sequencing service for this study and we are not involved beyond that.</i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>All the best,</i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>Ward Wakeland</i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>Edward K. Wakeland, Ph.D</i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Notice he says there was no analysis done at their labs. None. Her paper claims otherwise: </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">So if they didn’t do the analysis, who did? </span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">And finally on Friday, Mar. 22, 2013, Dr. Ketchum posted the following on facebook:</span><br />
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<i><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">The following was a unsolicited commentary by A. John Marsh on a genealogy DNA page which scientists use to discuss mtDNA origin. This is not the complete discussion . However, it sums up the analysis.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">T2 BIGFOOTS FOUND IN 5 DIFFERENT STATES:</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Along with the fact that all Bigfoots seem to have several different mtDNA mutations from each other, they also are found in 5 different states. It suggests that if a single T2b human female mated with a Bigfoot male 13,000 years ago, that the descendants of the T2b ancestor have spread widely in USA since then.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">AGE OF T2b:</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Web site</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px; text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fsrep%2F2012%2F121018%2Fsrep00745%2Ffull%2Fsrep00745.html&h=QAQGGen0j&s=1">http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121018/srep00745/full/srep00745.html</a></span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">If T2b is 12-10kya, and T1/ T2 coalesced about 19kya, T2b might very roughly originate about 10,000 to 15,000 years ago.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">THINGS I NOTED ABOUT MUTATIONS DIFFERENT IN BIGFOOT AND HUMANS:</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">One thing I noted was that all the 52 number diverse T2b haplogroup listed humans in the T2 project had a mutation 146T, but none of the Bigfoot had that mutation. It seems in fact that all T haplogroup have 146T. I am guessing that the earliest common ancestor of all Bigfoots had a back mutation on that marker to the CRS value.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Another thing I noticed was that all Bigfoots which appear to have been tested on the lower number markers, have mutation 73G. Yet not one of the</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">52 human mtDNA T2b persons had the mutation 73G. Why not? Was 73G a very early mutation in the Bigfoot line?</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">All the fully tested 4 Bigfoots had the 263G mutation, but not one single one of the 52 humans had 263G. Why not?</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">It seems all human T2bs have have 16187C and 16189T, but no bigfoots have either. In fact, all human haplgroup T are postive for both these mutations, so presumably in the common ancestor of all Bigfoots there was a mutation reverting to CRS.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">According to the Ketchum knockers, all the mtDNA Haplotypes in her project are modern contamination. All of these Bigfoot haplotypes are different.</span><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">Isn't it a bit puzzling that all of these humans mistaken as Bigfoot have different T2 mtDNA haplotypes, all have 73G and 263G mutations not found in humans, and all seem to have had back mutations on 146T, 16187C and 16189T, where these back mutations are apparently not found in any human T2b s?</span><br /><br /><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">John.</span></i></blockquote>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">That sounds interesting. Dr. Ketchum was very excited.</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> An hour earlier she posted:</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: #282828; letter-spacing: 0px;">"</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">We just received permission to post. There will most likely be a new paper come from this so we will not post the new findings but you will see enough of the proof to validate the paper. I am SO excited!!!!!"</span></i></blockquote>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">I apologize for tempering your excitement, but the thread is from Ancestry.com, not a genealogy DNA page. And <a href="http://www.kin.marshdna.com/DNAinfo.htm" target="_blank">A. John Marsh isn’t a scientist</a>. He is an architect. A <a href="http://www.hera.co.nz/Company?Action=View&Company_id=6724" target="_blank">landscape architect</a> to be precise, so according to Dr. Ketchum’s analysis of doctors, would that make him a lawn-chair scientist? But he built the excitement to write another paper... Did she see what he said about Q30 scores? </span></div>
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<i><span style="background-color: white; color: black;"><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Does the Q30 quality scores of above 88 mean 30 times average coverage, and 88 percent of the genome reconstructed? Just my guess, I don't know what it means. But on the face of it, does the scores obtained hint at a reliable coverage?</span></span> </i></blockquote>
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<b><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">The Foundations.</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"></span></b></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">All of her foundations have one thing in common. They are businesses. All of the payment methods point to her paypal address at DNA Diagnostics. Claiming to run a non-profit while actually operating as a for-profit business is a serious matter. Even the newest foundation the Melba Ketchum Global Sasquatch Foundation announces itself as a non-profit, but is only registered in Texas as a business. It is not listed as a non-profit, nor is it listed in the pending applications for non-profit license.</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">You can do the texas look up here: </span><a href="https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/Index.html" style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #021eaa; letter-spacing: 0px;">https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/Index.html</span></a><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> and enter Global Sasquatch Foundation as the name</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"></span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">You can search the IRS non-profit list here: </span><a href="http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/" style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: #021eaa; letter-spacing: 0px;">http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/</span></a><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> and enter the same name with Garland, Texas as City and State. You can search both existing and those that have applied from that page.</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"></span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">This entire project may have started with a noble goal, but it’s obviously steered in an unknown direction. Perhaps the missing data also holds a key to the direction it’s going. </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;">As before, I call on Dr. Ketchum to answer the questions. There are plenty of qualified scientists that can validate your data if it really says what you claim it does. What you released doesn't. I'm sure Mr. Marsh is a great guy and it looks like he's done a decent job with his <a href="http://www.kin.marshdna.com/DNAinfo.htm" target="_blank">family's history</a>, but for Sasquatch it's going to take someone a little more experienced. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><i>The great tragedy of science - the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact - </i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Thomas Huxley</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> </span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">The hypothesis of Dr. Melba Ketchum dared to answer one of the great questions of our age -- </span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">if there is a missing link, another hominid, a distant relative of humans and where this fits in within the evolutionary tree, all in one fell swoop.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;"> </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">Instead </span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">focusing on the task </span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">of proving</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #282828; line-height: 22px;"> if they were real or not, she skipped ahead and declared </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> they are an extant species that arrived after the hybridization of modern females and an unknown novel hominin approximately 13,000 - 15,000 years ago. </span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #282828;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Ridgerunner is a member of the BFF and a Molecular Biologist with 30 years experience in functional genetics. He is not what I could call an "armchair scientist." </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">He had he following to say:</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><span style="color: black; letter-spacing: 0px;">“</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">During fertilization, the genomes from the two parents recombine, having cross-over events along the chromosomes at regions of homology, creating a novel hybrid chromosome. </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Given that mammals have similar size genomes, and primates even more so, the resulting hybrid chromosome should be of similar size to human if that is the maternal side. So the whole genome should be 3Gbp and the chromosome 11 135Mbp, give or take say 10%. The size of the contigs (Dr. Ketchum) has provided</span> <span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">(2.7Mbp, 2.1Mbp, and 0.53??Mbp)</span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;"> ,</span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">while appearing to expand the whole of human Ch11, </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">are simply way, way too short </span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">if they are meant to represent the whole chromosome</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">.”</span></i></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Many of the critical reviews of the paper that I have read, have said that we must wait for Dr. Ketchum to release more data. "Only 1% of the data is there." But they’re wrong. The contigs are </span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;">homologous to</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> human chromosome 11, but it’s still only 2% of what should be there. </span></span><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 22px;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">(solely based on total DNA content the contig size of 2.7Mbp and the Hu Ch11 size of 135Mbp). </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">In conversations with Troy Hudson, a spokesperson for Dr. Ketchum who has been very patient and tried to explain things to the best of his abilities, reiterated that fact multiple times. </span></div>
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>“The scientists and journal peer review passed it and understood it, why can't everyone else understand, but again that is why some of her scientist that worked on writing the paper said, not everyone will understand the results, because they do not work in genetics and DNA on a daily basis.”</i></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0.0px;"><i>“No no, she told me and I told you everything is in the paper.”</i></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><span class="font_6" style="border: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">"T</span><span class="font_8" style="border: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><span class="color_2" style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">he DNA from these three samples was sequenced using the next generation Illumina platform at the University of Texas, Southwestern in Dallas, TX, a laboratory that sequences human genomes</span><span class="color_15" style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"></span></span><span class="font_10" style="border: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><a dataquery="#Link1cic" href="http://media.wix.com/ugd//c93a08_c630b351d5e85ddc9be3dabe6f2b8461.pdf" style="border: 0px; cursor: pointer; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_blank"><span class="color_15" style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">75-77</span></a></span><span class="font_6" style="border: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">. </span></i><span class="font_8" style="border: 0px; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><span class="color_2" style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"><i>On average, there were 70-110 million total reads for each sample in each lane, which is well over 90 Gb of raw sequence for each sample comprising greater than 30X coverage"</i> - </span></span><span style="line-height: 1.4em;">Next Generation Whole Genome Sequencing section of the "Novel North American Hominins." </span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">So if what was thought to be 1% turned out to be 100%, what does that say about the data? Did they tell me that so that others would only focus on what's there, instead of what could be missing. That would be misleading, so I'll trust that it's all of the data, but based on what's there...</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; line-height: 19px;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><i>"Q30 can also be used to determine if there was any contamination (or mixture) found in the samples sequenced. According to Illumina, a pure, single source sample would have an Q30 score of 80 or greater with an average of 85. However, if there was contamination present in the sample sequenced, the divergent sequences would compete against one another prior to sequencing causing a contaminated sample to have a Q30 score of 40 to 50."</i>- </span></span><span style="line-height: 22px;">Next Generation Whole Genome Sequencing section of the "Novel North American Hominins."</span></blockquote>
She used this <a href="http://www.illumina.com/Documents/products/technotes/technote_Q-Scores.pdf" target="_blank">reference here</a>, which doesn't once mention contamination. The technical notes are a complete and finished project, like the paper in question is supposed to be. Q30 scores show how consistent the readings are, not how contaminated.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0.0px;"></span>I attempted to contact co-authors and contributors listed in the paper and either didn't get a reply or was told they only did sequencing and did zero analysis on the paper. Some had never read it or offered no comment on it if they did. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">For the record, I am not attacking Dr. Ketchum. I adhere strictly to the “attack the argument, not the arguer” mantra. I am a reporter and have a need to find the truth. If something doesn’t sit right with me, I will obsessively dig into it until I find the answers. It’s an admitted flaw, but one that helps in what I do. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">When I initially inquired about the questions with the data, I was contacted by Troy and after explaining my position, was invited to submit a few questions that would be forwarded to Dr. Ketchum. The answers stalled mainly because of the confusion related to the “1% data” that was finally explained above. There was a constant repeat of the reluctance to deal with anyone in the Bigfoot community. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">As a writer that didn’t sit right. As a reporter, I took it as a challenge. It made me want to dig deeper. And I have much more information than is listed here, but sources do not wish to come forward at this time. I have my own ethical standards to uphold as a journalist. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; letter-spacing: 0px;">I have no position on whether Bigfoot is ape or human, or if it's real or not real. I'm not trying to prove anything. I only care that what is put out as fact is accurate and truthful. If there's more data, release it and I'll make sure it gets into qualified hands that will give an unbiased analysis. </span></div>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-4487630445224083262012-01-17T05:01:00.007-05:002012-01-18T08:27:37.659-05:00An Interview With Mike Rugg<a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZSQbrEsqg0/TxVHU30uagI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/DcQnuiTPSK0/s1600/MikeRuggpic.jpg"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5698539327415282178" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZSQbrEsqg0/TxVHU30uagI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/DcQnuiTPSK0/s320/MikeRuggpic.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: left; height: 90px; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; width: 160px;" /></a><br />
<div><strong>A little about Mike Rugg from his website</strong>:</div><div><a href="http://www.bigfootdiscoveryproject.com/">http://www.bigfootdiscoveryproject.com/</a></div><div style="text-align: justify;">Michael Rugg is co-founder of the Bigfoot Discovery Project (BDP) and Curator of The Bigfoot Discovery Museum in Felton CA. The BDP accepts the subject of the Patterson/Gimlin Film as the type specimen for the Pacific Coast Bigfoot or Sasquatch and seeks to create a dialogue about the implications of the impending "discovery of bigfoot" by conventional Western science. They are currently designing the Bigfoot Discovery Museum, scheduled to open in the Santa Cruz Mountains of Central California in the Spring of 2004. Its purpose is to educate the public at large about the probability of bigfoot and the current best guesses as to its habits and its place in the natural world.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">As a child, Rugg spent many weekends and holidays on fishing, camping and hunting trips with his parents throughout central and northern California (his father once owned a lumber mill in Garberville). His first bigfoot encounter may have happened on one of those occasions. He has been collecting information and artifacts--while studying unknown bipedal primates--since the early '50's, when the first photos of Yeti tracks on Mt Everest appeared in Western newspapers. Starting as a scrapbook of clipped articles, it grew into a collection of related books, images and miscellaneous memorabilia. Rugg has lived in Felton, next to one of the last stands of first growth redwoods left in central California, since he was 13.</div><div style="text-align: justify;">While an undergraduate at Stanford he delved further into his bipedal primate research via the microfiche and dusty old stacks of the university library. In March of 1967, he wrote a paper for an anthropology class (at that point, a culmination of 16 years of study) stating that the "Abominable Snowman Question" deserved further scientific research, accompanied by a map highlighting Bluff Creek as the place to find one of the "unknown" primates right here in California. The professor was not convinced, but did give him a "C" rather than the "F" that he had promised when Rugg first told him the paper's subject and intent. (Note: the Patterson/Gimlin film was shot just seven months later right where the map predicted.) Unimpressed with academe and the closed-minded attitude of his would-be mentor, Rugg abandoned his plan to pursue a second major in Paleoanthropology, left school, and opened an art studio next to his brother's woodshop in the Santa Cruz Mountains.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;">1. <strong>Chris B</strong>: Mike, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to do this interview over the phone. It's an honor to have you and I know the members at the Bigfoot Forums feel the same way.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Q: First of all, we've all been concerned about your recent health scare my friend, How are you?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I'm better now, I've had to change a few things with my diet and they have me on some medication now but I feel good. I guess the years of excess, eating whatever I wanted, have finally caught up with me. A change was in order.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Q: What first got you interested in the Bigfoot subject?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I first became interested in the subject as a child. I had my first encounter/sighting in 1950, I was 4 years old. Since this was prior to any real media exposure about the creatures, the only people to have known about the creatures were the actual witnesses. So my interest came natural after my encounter.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>2. Q: That's very exciting. Can you describe what the creature looked like?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I remember it was very large. I was just a small child but I remember that it was huge, broad shoulders, covered in dark hair. I got the impression I was looking at a large hairy man. I remember there was what appeared to be part of a shirt draped over it's shoulder. This was a very brief encounter, perhaps about a 3 count. My parents called me, I told them what I had seen and of course upon further investigation, it was gone.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>3. Q: Everyone seems to have a different opinion as to what these creatures are. What do you think Bigfoot/Sasquatch may be?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I think we have a multifaceted event going on World wide. Simply because there are alot of different beings reported. I believe we only need to look to the fossil record to determine what they are.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;">The Yeti in Asia by description and by the observations of it's locomotion, appears to be a type of ape. Fossils from Gigantopithecus are found in Asia and well documented.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;">We also have the Orang Pendek reports in Sumatra. Sightings of a small hairy man like creature. In 2003, small human like fossils were discovered on the remote island of Flores in the Indonesian archipelago. This new species is called Homo floresiensis.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;">As for North America , we have Homo Heidelbergensis. And there is now evidence to suggest there was also some interbreeding taking place with some species of primitive man. Another thing, we have to keep in mind is that there are feral humans as well. There are those species of Homo Sapien Sapien that for whatever reason decided to abandon society and live in the wild. So again, I think we have a multifaceted event and it's happening World wide.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>4. Q: There's been alot of discussion on the Bigfoot Forums about the Sierra Bigfoot shootings and also the Ketchum DNA study. Have you been following either of these and if so, what's your opinion?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: Yes I've been following both and it seems to me that both are a bit volatile subjects for comment at the moment. About the only thought I would like to convey is let's wait and see.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>5. Q: There seems to be two schools of thought to proving Bigfoot exists, kill or no-kill, which best describes your thoughts and why?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: Well that's a no brainer. Whether ape or human why kill them? They could be studied in their own environment and we could learn far more about them if someone was to take a Dr Jane Goodall approach.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>6. Q: What's your opinion on infrasound? Do you think Bigfoot uses infrasound?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I've read that there is scientific proof of infrasound. I've had people describe it to me. So I'm open to the concept they do have that type of ability.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>7. Q: What will it take to prove to the scientific community that these creatures exist? What evidence is required?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I think some tissue in a lab, or perhaps a body part. Tissue that can be replicated would likely be great evidence. The labs are gonna have to rethink how they do their testing. Too many times samples have been disregarded because there was a "human factor" present in the results. They need to understand that these creatures may be human in part and they definitely need to stop throwing out samples that have this factor with the common claim of "specimen contamination". Just because there is a human factor present does NOT mean the specimen was contaminated at the time of collection. These creatures may very well have a human factor within their DNA and if so, so be it. We need to learn from the results and not throw them out.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>8. Q: If Bigfoot was proven to exist tomorrow, what do you think our role as modern humans should be?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: If they have a language and communicate, I think we should treat them as people. They should have all the normal rights and protections bestowed on them as anyone else has.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>9. Q: But what if they're determined to be a species of great ape without any form of language?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: In that case I think we should study them but from a distance. This would be the situation where someone could take the Dr Jane Goodall stance and study them at a distance, to learn from them but at the same time not intrude on them. I think that funding would finally become available for this type of approach. And that's what we're lacking at the moment, funding. We could do great things in my own research areas if only the funding were available.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>10. Q: Any thoughts on the Erickson Project?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I'm hoping it will turn out to be something great. I've heard there may be around 40 clips with some in HD. I've not seen the clips personally but I hope they all turn out to be genuine. The clips need to be released together with the Ketchum DNA study. I am a bit concerned about some (one) of the individuals Mr Erickson has associated himself with. I would hope Mr. Erickson would not associate himself or his project with anyone that could take away from the credibility of this work.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>11. Q: Mike, we spoke earlier of the Ketchum DNA Study that's still ongoing. I'll come right out and ask, is the tooth you found included in that part of the study?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I can say that there was some material collected from the tooth that is still in Dr Melba Ketchum's possession. From what I understand it will not be used in this study as the material collected from the tooth is more ancient and they wanted modern DNA samples. I currently have possession of the tooth now, but Dr Ketchum still retains the samples collected from it.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>12. Q: What's the most convincing evidence for the existence of Bigfoot in your opinion?</strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg</strong>: I'd have to say the combined eyewitness testimony, the Patterson Gimlin film and the new DNA work being done.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong></strong></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Chris B: </strong>Once again thank you Mike for taking the time to do this interview. It was an honor to speak with you again my friend. </div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Mike Rugg: </strong>My pleasure. I also have some video interviews available on youtube, just type in "Bigfoot Discovery Museum".</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-12848181209838905352011-12-05T11:22:00.004-05:002011-12-05T15:02:28.635-05:00Interview with Author and Paranormal Investigator Philip Spencer<div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Philip Spencer grew up in Anderson County, Kentucky, in the town of Lawrenceburg.<br />
Blessed or cursed with an insatiable curiosity for everything, he has been seeking answers<br />
to the mysteries of life, death and the paranormal since childhood. A 40 year veteran investigator, he has amassed a huge number of case files in his research of strange events that have occurred around the world. Bigfoot however, is one of the author's preferred areas of research as in Anderson County, Kentucky, there have been many sightings of the enigmatic creature known the world over. His first book, The Wildman of Kentucky, The Mystery of Panther Rock, entails these sightings and much more, taking the reader on a journey into the heart of the "Dark and Bloody Ground" one of the most active paranormal places in the nation also known as "The Frazier Land."<br />
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Philip Is currently writing a new book titled, "The Ghosts Of Anderson County" and is contemplating returning to Anderson County Kentucky to shoot a movie titled "Return To The Frazier Land".<br />
Philip Spencer is the Author of "The Wildman Of Kentucky , The Mystery Of Panther Rock"<br />
which can be found in book and DVD format and has worked with the TV show Monster Quest on The History Channel and recently can be seen in the NBC affiliate, WLEX-TV of Lexington Kentucky, presentation "The Bluegrass Bigfoot".<br />
Philip has appeared on numerous radio shows worldwide. Philip is a investigative researcher in the world of strange animals and paranormal activity.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip, first I'd like to thank you for taking the time to do this interview. It's an honor to have you and I know the members at the forum feel the same way.</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"></b></span></div></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">1. Q: What first got you interested in the Bigfoot subject?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"></b></span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> Thank you Chris for asking me to do this interview. I was approximately nine years old, which would have been in 1960, and lived in the small town of Alton in Anderson County Kentucky when one morning I found a large strange track in a plowed field on our farm. It was a single track and only had three toes. It was near the middle of the field with no sign of any other track or the ground being disturbed anywhere in the field. It was a right foot and approximately 12 to 14 inches in length and was not of an unusable width. <br />
I can still remember standing with my Stevens Crack Shot rifle on my shoulder and looking down at the track and then looking up and scanning the edges of the field and finally I looked up.<br />
Years later when I discovered the internet I was able to contact Smokey Crabtree who also has seen three toed tracks and Stan Gordon who at one time had a picture of a three toed cast from his research area of Pennsylvania. <br />
I now do not connect this three toed track I saw with Bigfoot. But I think this track was the catalyst for my lifelong obsession with strange animals. <br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">2. Q: I know you're from Anderson County Kentucky, is this area known for Bigfoot sightings? Is there any particular area that these sightings seem more common?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"></b></span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer: </b>In regards to Bigfoot sighting in Anderson County Kentucky you can visit kentuckybigfoot.com </span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">and click on Anderson County and you will find 14 reports from Anderson County. Ten of the reports were taken by myself and I have 4 more that I am working on at this time. <br />
I think there are several reasons that such a large number of sightings come from Anderson County. One is the fact I am accessible and listen to people and do not judge them. Second, Anderson County has everything Bigfoot could ever need. Remote areas with wandering streams and rivers and a food source any omnivore would desire. The waterways in Anderson County such as The Kentucky River and Salt River both have steep cliff sides that provide an instant getaway so that Bigfoot can put those big powerful legs to use and leave us standing around wondering “where did Bigfoot go?” as it escapes into the denseness of the thickly covered steep hillsides.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">3. Q: Have you had a sighting of one of the creatures? If so, can you tell us a few details? (time of day, was it doing something? What did it look like?)</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> In the late summer or early fall of 1970 near the town of Glensboro in Anderson County Kentucky myself and my friend had a remarkable sighting. We both loved animals and loved to ride around out in the county late at night and see if we could see anything unusual or strange. We had a powerful spotlight that we plugged into the cigarette lighter and would scan the woods and fields and bottoms along the river to see what we could see.<br />
It was approximately 2 P.M. and we were on Highway 44 just west of Glensboro and I was holding the light on the roof of the car and we rode along and I would shine the light into the fields on the right side of the car as Salt river ran through the area and deer and other animals were plentiful and we knew we would see something even if only deer.<br />
Little did we know we would certainly see something other than deer.<br />
As we got near the end of the stretch of road where we could see into the river bottoms I was shining my light as we crawled along and sweeping a large bend in the land where the river turned. I was seeing a large group of deer and as I swept the light I realized that something was wrong. I realized I had just seen some eyes that were out of place. They were at a much taller height that the deer and larger. I told my field to stop and as I swung the light back there he was. The creature was huge. I would say 8 feet tall and very powerful looking. It turned and started walking off in the direction of the valley where the river ran. It never ran, it never panicked. It briskly walked away and looked back over its right should twice in our direction. It came to an old fence in the field and just walked over it and never broke stride. The fence was maybe 3 to 4 feet tall and old. The creature kept walking and faded into the darkness of the river bottom and left us sitting there staring into the night and trying to grasp what we had just seen.<br />
We were both extremely experienced outdoor guys and we just sat frozen in the car for a minute or so and then my friend looked at me and kind of smiled and said "what was that?"..He drove off and we actually never talked much about this sighting after that and he prefers to not talk about it at all for personal reasons.<br />
The creature I saw was so powerful looking. Broad shoulders, tapering down to a smaller waist with long arms and very muscular legs. I could see the creature clearly but not clear enough to give exact specifics on fingers or face etc.<br />
Oddly there is something that has stuck in my mind so prominently from that night for all these years and it was how the deer reacted. Even with something as monumental as a Bigfoot sighting what I saw the deer nearby do has caused me to give great thought to what they did.<br />
For anyone who grew up in the country and were around chickens you will instantly understand what I am about to describe. In the field were maybe 30 deer and they were grazing and just looking around like deer do. When I spotted the Bigfoot with the light and he turned to walk away the deer did the strangest thing. The all moved at the same time and it was like chickens moving away from something at the same time. They did not panic or run fast, they just shuffled away almost like a circle. And then they stopped and went back to doing what deer do.<br />
I believe Bigfoot eats deer but the deer did not seem terrified of this enormous creature near them (no more than 50 yards). So did they not know he was there? Could he have been down wind and slowly made his way to them? Why would they not sense something that was so close and was possibly looking for a meal?. Does Bigfoot prefer fawns and only in dire times kill the adults? These questions have haunted me for years and most likely will continue to do so.<br />
In this same location several years later I had another encounter while on foot. Maybe next time for that one.. <br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">4. Q: What gear/equipment do you carry in the field on an investigation or outing? Any suggestions for new researchers on gear/equipment? </b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> I try to always have my sample kit with me which has small plastic bags and large plastic zip lock bags as well as tweezers and a magnifying glass and of course a measuring device. I also have test tubes to put hair samples in if needed. A small notepad to write down info and a compass are good to have with you.<br />
I always have several knifes with me and carry a pistol when in the woods. I am not really concerned with animals and needing the pistol as much as encountering people who just might require me to need my weapon. Better safe than sorry.<br />
I also have a Nikon D3100 and a Sony SR-11 camcorder with me and my phone takes full HD video and has a 8 MP dual flash camera.<br />
I own several trail cams which are always at whichever is my current research area in Kentucky and several audio recorders which are also at work in Kentucky just about year round. <br />
Always have a small survival kit with you as you never know when something unexpected will happen and if you are unsure of how to make a fire then have something that will, this can also save your life.<br />
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I have access to many types of investigative equipment such as thermal and other visual detection equipment.<br />
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Your gear depends on many variables and also where you are and what you will be doing and how long you will be there. Give great thought to what you need before you go out as things can change rapidly in the outdoors and being ready can save your life.<br />
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Just remember if you find something or see something and have nothing to document what you saw or found then are you really doing research or just wandering around in the woods?<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">5. Q: Everyone seems to have different opinions about what these creatures are or may be, what do you think they may be?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> Chris after all these years I still am not sure. The creature I saw, to me, was a flash and blood creature of enormous size. As to what this creature should be classified as?, ? well? Is it a relic hominoid related to what or who? Only time and study and hopefully a capture - analyze - release will tell us the answers to all the questions we all live with in our quest to understand this beautiful mystery known as Bigfoot.<br />
Over and over in my mind I have been tortured with the thoughts of how can an animal of this size be so elusive? And even more so how with all the technology we have can we not have found this creature and been able to study and understand it.<br />
Personally I have been told numerous stories by people who were in positions to know that the military has photos and videos and even satellite images of Bigfoot. One individual told me he saw the photos and to him the creature looked like a pre-historic man more so than what the common depiction most have in their minds of Bigfoot looks like. He said it was extremely strange looking at these images of several of the creatures in an area of Washington State. But all the individuals who have told me these stories have never been able to show me anything that I could see or hold in my hold for verification.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">6. Q: On the Forum, there's been alot of discussion about the Sierra Bigfoot shootings and also the Ketchum DNA study. Have you been following either of these and if so, what's your opinion?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> I have followed both and will say this. I am not someone who likes to assume anything and until the facts are laid out for everyone to see and discuss and review it is in my opinion best to let the work of Dr. Ketchum be done and laid out for everyone to see.<br />
As for the Sierra shootings so much has been said and speculated on that it is hard for me to know what is what? When I read the story it made me feel so bad and if this actually happened it is a sad event. Hopefully in time solid facts will arise and we all will know the complete factual story. (more info may be available and I have just not seen it)<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">7. Q: There seems to be two schools of thought to proving Bigfoot exists, kill or no-kill, which best describes your thoughts and why?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> I am a no kill advocate. I believe in capture, analyze, release. I do not like seeing animals held in cages or compounds for people to stare at. I understand that we as a species are extremely destructive and will kill off many species with little thought to the ramifications of what we are doing and some people try to save species by captive breeding. <br />
But once people see that Bigfoot is real there will be a bounty on this amazing creature, more so than now, and I suspect a body will be taken for display. As per example what is said to have occurred with the Texas group. Alton Higgins declares Bigfoot killable and a body needed for study and out come the guns and the woods are filled with Bigfoot hunters looking to kill one just as fast as they can find one. Other groups are doing the same thing and in my opinion it is just ego gone wild and nothing more than one person or one group wanting to wear the tag of the person/group who killed Bigfoot for the betterment of Bigfoot ( the paradoxical paradox?).<br />
I have been involved in a small group who very quietly have been working for over one year to capture Bigfoot. Never ever have we even thought of killing Bigfoot as we see no need to kill what we think is a subject from a very small group of creatures that are dwindling by the day. We have everything laid out and in place to do what is needed to capture and analyze then release. Killing one of the few remaining samples might not be the best idea for protecting the species.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">8. Q: In your book and documentary, you refer to one individual as "X farmer" who owns property within the Frazier land. Has living in this area had any effect on him or his family? If so, can you tell us a little about it or any odd experiences they've had?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> So many strange events happened to the family of the X-Farmer and he and his family suffered greatly from the events on their land even to the point of physical illness. The children were no longer allowed to go out and camp or have friends over for campouts and told to not go out at night. The adults were armed constantly and on edge and stressed out constantly. Large farm dogs with their faces cuts deeply found laying in the yard after a vicious fight the night before with a strange looking creature and one dog from the fight , which weighed approximately 100 Lbs was never seen again! Less than a mile away a 700 Lb cow came crashing threw a gate and as the elderly man and woman who owned the cow rushed out to see what was happening they found her with her ears ripped off to the bone and her right eye torn out and dangling and three large gasp marks in her back which looked similar to the smaller gashes on the dogs face which had 3 claws or talons or whatever?<br />
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I have often thought about this family and what they went through and how they wanted none of this to happen they just wanted to be a family and not have to deal with all the bizarre events that happened to them on their farm in the Frazier Land. Even after I wrote my book and detailed all that happened more events happened. Also numerous others in this area have had negative reactions due to strange events. One family even moved away from the area.<br />
I think although Bigfoot is part of the events it is important to understand there were many more strange events that happened to the X-Farmer and his family and others in the area that were not Bigfoot related..<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">9. Q: What's your opinion on infrasound? Do you think Bigfoot uses infrasound? If so, any opinion on what it could be used for?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> As for Bigfoot "using" infrasound I have no evidence that this is true. It seems that a perception is among many that Bigfoot uses infrasound as a type of defensive weapon, something to confuse people or maybe large predators until it can get away or as a warning signal.<br />
I have listened to amazing stories of people telling how they encountered Bigfoot and were suddenly confused as if there was some kind of event happening that was making them unable to function and they associated this event with the sighting. But to my knowledge we have zero proof of this, we have great stories but zero hard facts.<br />
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Could Bigfoot make sounds in the infrasound frequency spectrum? Maybe? I have worked in the field with scientists from several schools and we were monitoring a valley and gathering information within the infrasound range. We were call blasting and we got a very distinct tree knock after one of the call blasts.<br />
When the waveform data was analyzed for the time after we stopped call blasting and over the night they found a sound in the infrasound range that could not be explained, they had not seen anything like it before on the spectrum analyzer.<br />
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So what does this prove? It proves something made a strange sound in a remote valley where the same night a very distinct tree knock was heard. That’s all it proves.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">10. Q: As a Kentuckian myself, I find it kinda funny that the scientists say "There's no such thing as black panthers in KY". So, as a quick question for our cryptozoologist members interested in large cats, Have there been any reports of large black cats in your investigation area?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> Yes , in my book I tell of a friend of mines encounter with a large black cat in the Frazier Land. He was an avid outdoorsman and an animal lover and the large black cat he saw was not only large and black but rather strange in description. It ran low to the ground and had a very pronounced stomach. He said the tail looked very strange as it looped (curled ) much more than he said it should. <br />
He encountered the big cat on a hillside path near the Kentucky River in an area known as Gilberts Creek. <br />
Also if anyone would like to take a look at an unsolved animal track that some say is a big cat track, although it would be a huge cat that left the track, please visit my website www.philipspencer.net and click on the words "Mud Track" near the top and look over what is known as "The Frazier Mud Track". Experts from many fields have looked at this track and to this day no one is sure as to what made this track.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">11. Q: If Bigfoot was proven to exist tomorrow, what do you think our role as modern humans should be?</b><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Philip Spencer:</b> Our roll as modern humans should be one of compassion and understanding however, the sad truth is we as a species are not all we should be and it will be like everything else, some will be compassionate and understanding and want to know everything about this mysterious wonderful creature and try to co -exist in a very hard world to do so in.<br />
Some will want to capture the creature and put it on display and others will want to kill it and mount it over their fireplaces. That sadly is just how we are..<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">12. Q: Any thoughts or opinions on the Erickson Project?</b></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Philip Spencer:</span></b><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> I think we should all just sit back and let it speak for itself. <br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">13. Q: Are there any particular times of the year that Bigfoot activity in your research area peaks?</b></span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;">Philip Spencer:</span></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> October through April seems to be the time for peak activity in Kentucky. Not that activity will not happen year round but year after year the reports start rolling in about October and they sure have this year (2011). Charlie Raymond and myself are on the phone almost every day during this specific time of year discussing new reports and also going over all our investigations etc.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">14. Q: What's the most convincing evidence of the existence of Bigfoot in your opinion?</b></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Philip Spencer:</span></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> At this time I think the cumulative evidence is the best evidence. Thousands of reports over the years from excellent witnesses who in numerous cases are trained observers. We have casts and videos and still images but those are not absolute verification, they are part of the cumulative information which is part of the information that is needed to not only further the study but also to help in solving this amazing mystery.<br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">15. Q: I really enjoyed your DVD "The Wildman of Kentucky. The Mystery of Panther Rock." Are you working on any new projects that you can discuss briefly?</b></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Philip Spencer:</span></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> At this time due to health reasons everything is on hold in my research and work. I have enough material to do another movie and book in Anderson County Kentucky and hope to so soon. Also one of my monitored research areas in central Kentucky has recently (Oct & Nov. of 2011) started being very productive in some of the strangest events <br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">16. Q: What advice would you give to new Bigfoot researchers?</b></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Philip Spencer:</span></b><span lang="EN" style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN;"> Maybe consider bowling or collecting stamps J. Seriously though be prepared, think about what you are doing and be prepared. It is a captivating and engrossing research. You will be baffled and frustrated and at times want to surrender but you will carry on as trying to solve this mystery as it seems to get into a person's very soul, especially if you have had a sighting of this creature.<br />
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Be prepared to be "thick skinned" as they say dealing with those who ridicule and make fun of you but always know you are the one actually "trying" to accomplish something and if you ask the person who is ridiculing you what their research is, in most cases they have none.<br />
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If you are out in the woods and you have your camera and your recording device all set up and suddenly something happens, please please do not talk! So many great captures of audio have been over ridden by " What is that?!!" or "Did you hear that?!!"..Stay calm and get the information, after that, panic and talk and run into trees if you need to.<br />
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The beautiful mystery of Sasquatch has held tens of thousands of good people captive for many years and will continue to do so. I hope before I leave this life I know the answers to all the questions about this magnificent creature that have haunted me for all these years.. </span></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><br />
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<div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span lang="EN" style="color: #1c2837; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><em>Philip is a member of the following groups:<br />
Investigator With: Kentucky Bigfoot Research Group<br />
Investigator With: American Bigfoot Society<br />
Investigative Consultant With: Tri-State Bigfoot<br />
Member Of: Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society<br />
Member Of: Sasquatch Watch Of Virginia<br />
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Also Philip is the owner of Back River Productions A multi media company in Hampton Virginia and the company Memories Of Me . Also located in Hampton Virginia…</em>For more information on Philip Spencer please visit: </span><span style="font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%;"><a href="http://philipspencer.net/">http://philipspencer.net/</a></span></div></div><div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><br />
</div></div></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1VmsS3N4_M/TtzwglzPv0I/AAAAAAAAACY/6557XQ7-4KE/s1600/PSpencer.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" dda="true" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1VmsS3N4_M/TtzwglzPv0I/AAAAAAAAACY/6557XQ7-4KE/s200/PSpencer.jpg" width="164" /></a></div>BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-35327564535419375612011-11-07T11:52:00.005-05:002011-11-07T12:38:39.056-05:00Georgia History Professor tackles the topic of Bigfoot<div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dl3mlo4SoJQ/TrgJtQZ14_I/AAAAAAAAACA/C6vJ-w3z0O4/s1600/BigfootInGeorgia.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" ida="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dl3mlo4SoJQ/TrgJtQZ14_I/AAAAAAAAACA/C6vJ-w3z0O4/s320/BigfootInGeorgia.jpg" width="212" /></a></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Professor Jeffery Wells is a 10<sup>th</sup> generation Georgian. Having grown up in the state, he is quite familiar with its terrain, geography, and history. He holds a bachelor’s degree in history from the University of Georgia and a master’s degree in history from Georgia College & State University in Milledgeville. He is currently the social sciences and education department chairman for Georgia Military College’s Atlanta campus. He has published several articles on Georgia history in various magazines and newsletters, as well as penned chapters on the state’s history for Georgia history textbooks. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">In his book <em><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;">Bigfoot in Georgia</span></em>, Jeffery Wells explores the mystery of Bigfoot in the Peach state from the earliest Native American legends of the Creek and Cherokee tribes through the latest Bigfoot hoax. He covers encounters and reports throughout local history, the Elkins Creek cast, and the fascinating people who are searching for the elusive creatures in Georgia.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">How did you become interested in the Bigfoot phenomena in Georgia and what led you to write a book on the topic?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>As a child, I was always interested in mysteries. I remember watching <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">In Search Of </b>hosted by Leonard Nimoy when I was much younger. In fact, I still have copies of them at home. Occasionally, I will watch them to recapture that spark for mysteries and legends that so inspired my youth. Perhaps it is why I chose to study history academically and teach it at the college level as a profession.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The reason for writing the book was that a student of mine years ago wrote one of his junior research papers on this topic in an academic writing class I taught. At that time, I had no clue that this creature might exist in Georgia.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I told him to go ahead, but that he should not be disappointed if he finds no evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In fact, he found lots of evidence, including some great local sightings in that area.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He told me that I could keep the paper; unfortunately, I have lost it, but it was good and merited an A.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Years later, I discussed this paper with my college students. One challenged me to take the young man’s suggestion seriously. When I began my research, I was astonished at what I found.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Can you tell us about some of the evidence that you feel supports the idea that such a creature exists?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>It is very difficult to make a total assertion that Bigfoot exists in Georgia without a shadow of doubt. There is still some reservation in my mind; however, the collection of evidence is absolutely worth pausing over, and I have done that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>First, the Elkins Creek cast is without a doubt the crown jewel in Georgia.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In a broader context, the Patterson-Gimlin footage is certainly very close to a smoking gun.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Specific research done by scholars would include the work of Dr. Jeff Meldrum, and readers will recall that I interviewed him for the book.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Others would be Dr. Grover Krantz.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>His theories and many of the prints he collected were very eye-opening.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But furthermore, the many sightings in history when word did not travel as well, and human civilization was not in the third wave (Technological Revolution/Information Age) and people were not able to read what happened across the country or planet as quickly as we are able to do today, are quite valuable.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In other words, it is amazing to read the sighting reports from the 1800s from places far away from each other and see how they are similar, all the while knowing that there was no way they could have been feeding off each other due to the unavailability of mass communication.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">In your book, you relate stories and legends from Native Americans that are attributed to Bigfoot. Is it possible that these stories are simply social constructs and myths conjured by those tribes as a form of entertainment or do you feel there is a level of truth behind them and why?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>This is a very plausible question.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Of course there is the possibility that these stories are nothing more than yarns spun by our native ancestors to do just that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>While I am no expert on Native American culture, I do know more than the average person about their culture and way of life.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I am currently reading everything I can about those tribes in the Southeast in an attempt to understand them more.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, one must pause when the legends are read and think about the many references that are made to what we know today may be Bigfoot behavior, i.e. wood-knocking, eating habits…<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It is very true that humans in general throughout the ages have stories and legends that are no more than that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Surely no one thinks that there are small humans in the Catskill Mountains or that a human can sleep unmolested for 20 years as Washington Irving wrote in his legendary tales. So it is true that every culture has its own share of legends and lore. However, it is also true that cultures have tried as hard as they could to explain their world and environment through stories and such when they lacked the scientific foundations to do so. Greek mythology, Native American stories, and African oral epics come to mind. So, it is very possible that these stories are just that in the Native American culture. My hesitation to dismiss them is that there are some amazing similarities to what Bigfoot researchers have now uncovered as possible behavioral patterns of the creature, if indeed that is what is out there.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">If Bigfoot does indeed exist, what do you think these creatures are?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>I will speculate that they are an evolutionary oddball. What I mean by that is that they are a descendent of Gigantopithecus Blacki that somehow did not die out but made it through the evolutionary melee.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, it must be noted that I am a Georgia historian and not an anthropologist or biologist. So I defer to men like Jeff Meldrum and the late Grover Krantz or John Bindernagel. I have read their work and find much in it to be noted.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Skeptics often cite such things as the lack of data in the fossil records for Bigfoot, the lack of recovered remains from natural or accidental deaths and the lack of any other verified biological evidence. They commonly assert that there are only footprints (questionable in source and nature) and anecdotal accounts or stories used to support the existence of these creatures. In your opinion, how could a population of these creatures exist and leave such seemingly scant evidence and virtually no environmental impact? </span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>To me this comes down to numbers. From what I understand from the research, and this is hypothesis mind you, there are not a lot of these creatures in any one environment, which may account for the lack of evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There are other things that may be at play here. Perhaps they bury their dead, or destroy the remains. If these creatures are skillful and able to solve problems, then we have to assume that they realize that by leaving things behind they may invite trouble. I think of the sightings where the animals follow hikers or campers only to scare them, not harm them. The intent is to move them along and remove them from their environment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I also think of the stories where these animals are said to be communicating with each other through wood-knockings and other devices.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I also think of the story where the creature was able to kill a skunk in the pipeline of a large irrigation system only to use the scent to cover his/her young so that it would not be so susceptible to attack by predators since the juvenile of the species would not be as able to defend itself as the adults would be.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>These things represent problem solving skills to me. However, I fully understand the scientific community’s need to have a body or live specimen in order to get behind the idea that Bigfoot exists. I believe it is incumbent upon the Bigfoot researchers that are out there and are credible to continue to do what they can to bring in the evidence that will one day solve this mystery.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">The Elkins Creek cast is a very well-known piece of purported evidence that Bigfoot does exist in Georgia. Why do you feel this single cast is so revered and what is the story behind its discovery and subsequent designation as “The Crown Jewel of Georgia Sasquatchery”?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>I cannot say enough about why this piece of evidence intrigues me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I am not the only one who respects this piece of evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In fact, and I mention this in the book, while interviewing Dr. Meldrum in January 2008 while writing the book, I asked him about the cast.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Steve Hyde of GeorgiaBigfoot.com has already mentioned to me that Meldrum had a great deal of respect for the cast.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So I asked him to clarify his thoughts on the cast.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He commented that it is one of less than a dozen pieces of evidence in North America that he feels have the strongest potential in proving the existence of a great ape in North America. Having said that, it is impossible to ignore this piece of evidence.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The story behind the cast is very interesting, and it is actually my favorite sighting/experience I wrote about.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A condensed version goes something like this:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>An older gentleman in Pike County, Georgia lived near Elkins Creek, a small creek that springs from the Flint River.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Apparently, this was home to something that visited his mobile home and barn from time to time stealing dog food and other things.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The visits became more violent as whatever this was killed a few of his pets, threw tires in to trees, and would bang on the side of the mobile home.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>At one point, the animal even walked alongside the outer wall of the trailer and assumed a position of either mocking or threatening the elderly man and his wife who were inside listening.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The old man had somewhat of a blunt personality, and as he had made reports to the Pike County Sheriff’s Department before about these events, many did not take him seriously.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>James Akin, who was a deputy sheriff at the time, was sent to investigate.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The old man took him down to Elkins Creek where he made plaster casts of one of the prints. It was quite large, and seeing it convinced Akin that this could be the real deal.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>His interest in the mystery deepened after that point.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Akin had friends who encouraged him to send the cast to Meldrum and Krantz for investigation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The rest, as they say, is history.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The cast is so important because of its size and perceived authenticity.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It also showed that the animal making the prints was more than likely older, for the bottom of his foot had very little fat on it. Perhaps it was even starving, which might explain the drastic measures it took to procure food at the home of the older man on Elkins Creek.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">During your research for the book, you met with several field researchers and investigators involved in the search for Bigfoot in Georgia. What was your impression of these people and did you observe any common personality traits between them?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>For the most part, the researchers I met were very inquisitive, positive people.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In particular, I was quite impressed with Dr. Meldrum, Matt Pruitt, Steve Hyde, Wayne Ford, and the researcher identified as Ranger in the book.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>These men were very intelligent, thought critically, and took their subject seriously. I will say, however, that I was more than once privy to the competitive nature of various organizations. Then again, no discipline lacks that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">What has been the response of your academic peers regarding your interest in Bigfoot and your subsequent book on the topic?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>For the most part, the response has been supportive. However, very few of my peers have commented on this work, and I rarely go to them for that commentary. It is not that I do not respect them, for I do. But I would rather have feedback from those who have spent a large part of their lives studying this subject and tracking what they think is the most elusive creature on the planet.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Do you have any future plans to write another book on the topic of Bigfoot?</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Jeffery Wells: </b>One can never tell.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That will depend on the demand from the readers. My area of expertise is Georgia history and myth and legend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I am now working on a joint project with a fellow English professor about another Georgia mystery-this one focuses on a different creature (or what was perceived as one).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We are just now in the research phase, so this work will not be out for another year or so.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, I could see myself doing a follow-up.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I have long been interested in doing a book on the men and women who search for Bigfoot. Perhaps there is a demand for such a work. I am just proud to be the first author to publish a serious work on the subject of Bigfoot in Georgia.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It is with great pleasure that I did so and continue to engage those who have read my work and want to know more about it.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><em><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;">Visit Professor Wells' blog at </span></em><a href="http://www.georgiamysteries.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"> Georgia Mysteries</span></a><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;"> <em><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;">and for more information on the history of Bigfoot sightings in the Peach State, pick up a copy of his fascinating book:</span></em> </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bigfoot-Georgia-Jeffery-Wells/dp/0937663174/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320684098&sr=1-1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif;">Bigfoot in Georgia</span></a></div><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif";"></span><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: left;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dHbHcbnJhxY/TrgKFOLN1WI/AAAAAAAAACI/DStqhrRfZro/s1600/J.+Wells.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" ida="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dHbHcbnJhxY/TrgKFOLN1WI/AAAAAAAAACI/DStqhrRfZro/s1600/J.+Wells.jpg" /></a></div>BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2386440553301778777.post-5691641997316625382011-11-07T11:38:00.000-05:002011-11-07T11:38:14.879-05:00An Interview with Benjamin Radford<div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford is <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Deputy_editor"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">deputy editor</span></a> of the science magazine <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Skeptical_Inquirer"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Skeptical Inquirer</span></a>, former <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Editor-in-chief"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">editor-in-chief</span></a> of the Spanish-language magazine <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Pensar"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Pensar</span></a>, which was published in <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Buenos_Aires"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Buenos Aires</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Argentina"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Argentina</span></a>, and a columnist for Skeptical Inquirer magazine <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Skeptical_Briefs"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Skeptical Briefs</span></a> newsletter, Discovery News, LiveScience.com and MediaMythmakers.com. He also co-hosts, with <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Karen_Stollznow"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Karen Stollznow</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Skeptic_(U.S._magazine)"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Skeptic</span></a> magazine's audio podcast <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/MonsterTalk"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">MonsterTalk</span></a>, which critically examines the science behind <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Cryptozoological"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">cryptozoological</span></a> (and legendary) creatures, such as <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Bigfoot"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Bigfoot</span></a>, the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Loch_Ness_Monster"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Loch Ness Monster</span></a> and <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Werewolves"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">werewolves</span></a>. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/l%20cite_note-0"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">[1]</span></a>He has written six books, and hundreds of articles on a wide variety of topics, including urban legends, the paranormal, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Critical_thinking"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">critical thinking</span></a>, film, and media literacy. In his work with the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Committee_for_the_Scientific_Investigation_of_Claims_of_the_Paranormal"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal</span></a>, Radford characterizes himself as one of the world's few science-based <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Paranormal_investigator"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">paranormal investigators</span></a>, and has done first-hand research into psychics, ghosts and haunted houses;<a href="http://www.blogger.com/l%20cite_note-1"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">[2]</span></a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Exorcism"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">exorcisms</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Miracle"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">miracles</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Bigfoot"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Bigfoot</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Stigmata"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">stigmata</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Lake_monster"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">lake monsters</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/UFO"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">UFO</span></a> sightings, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Reincarnation"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">reincarnation</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Crop_circles"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">crop circles</span></a>, and other topics. Radford also writes on many other topics, including world travel, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Scientific_literacy"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">science literacy</span></a>, jungle hiking, sex offender panics, and popular fallacies. Radford has appeared on <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/CNN"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">CNN</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/The_History_Channel"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">The History Channel</span></a>, the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Channel"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">National Geographic Channel</span></a>, the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Learning_Channel"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Learning Channel</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">CBC</span></a>, <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/BBC"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">BBC</span></a>, and others. He also served as a consultant for the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/MTV"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">MTV</span></a> series "The Big <a href="http://www.blogger.com/wiki/Urban_legend"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">Urban Myth</span></a> Show." </span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">1. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: What weight, if any, do you place on the historical data about Bigfoot, (like that illustrated in NA culture), and the plethora of continuing eyewitness accounts?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : It depends on what you mean by "historical data." There's nothing wrong with looking at Native American / First Nations stories and legends, but these are not eyewitness accounts of encounters with real creatures. Any expert on anthropology and folklore can tell you that. Legends and stories from the Grimm brothers, Aesop, and Greek myths about monsters and magical creatures were written hundreds (and thousands) of years ago, but they are not "historical evidence" for any real-life animals. If anyone is interested, I discuss the weight of historical data in the search for cryptids in my book Lake Monster Mysteries: Investigating the World's Most Elusive Creatures. Of course much of it is about lake monsters, but it applies to Bigfoot as well. Eyewitness accounts should be investigated and can be valuable if they lead to other evidence (for example if a person sees a Bigfoot somewhere, and goes to where they saw it and finds tracks). But eyewitness reports, by themselves, are simply not good evidence. They are the most common type of evidence, and the weakest because it is well known that sincere eyewitnesses can be very wrong. Loren Coleman admits that at least 90% of eyewitness accounts are wrong (misunderstandings, misidentifications, etc.), and this is a well-established fact supported by decades of psychological studies (I have a degree in psychology). That doesn't mean that it's not possible that some people are really seeing an "unknown creature"just that there is very strong reason to be skeptical.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">2. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: How do you think the Bigfoot phenomenon compares to the chupacabra phenomenon? Do you think they are similar and if not why?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : They are very different. We can trace back the chupacabra to 1995, while of course Bigfoot dates back to at least the 1950s, with Jerry Crew and all that. Chupacabra, unlike Bigfoot, is a vampire, and was mostly seen in Spanish-speaking areas and countries. Also, it's pretty clear to me (and people who have read my book Tracking the Chupacabra) that the chupa mystery really is pretty much solved. I don't think we are anywhere near as definitive on the solution to Bigfoot, partly because there's so much material.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">3. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: What do you think is the most challenging evidence for Bigfoot from a skeptical viewpoint? Also, what evidence regularly cited by Bigfoot proponents do you think is the weakest?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : The most challenging evidence from a skeptical perspective would probably be DNA analyses, since they are scientific and theoretically definitive. Unfortunately "unknown" or "unidentified" results do not mean "Bigfoot." There are many reasons why a given sample might come back unknown, including that the sample was contaminated or degraded. As for the weakest evidence, I have to go with eyewitness sightings, for reason I mentioned above. There have been thousands and thousands of sightings, and every single one of them has failed to uncover good evidence. Think about that for a second. If you are trying to do something (i.e. identify an animal by describing what you think you saw it do), and you did this for months and years and decades, collecting thousands and thousands of descriptions without ever accomplishing your goal (identifying the animal), you're doing something wrong. Your methods are not working. From an evidence and investigation standpoint, eyewitness testimony has been a complete and undeniable failure. Why keep doing something that has never succeeded?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">4. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: On the Bigfoot Forums, there's been alot of discussion about the Sierra Bigfoot shootings and also the Ketchum DNA study. Have you been following or investigating either of these and if so, can you share your opinion or any findings with us?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : To be honest I haven't been following these two very closely... Bigfoot is only one small part of my crypto research (including lake monsters, chupacabra, etc.), which is only one small part of my "unexplained / paranormal" research (which includes everything from ghosts to UFOs to crop circles and miracles), which is only one small part of my workload (magazine editing, writing books, Discovery News columns, etc.). So I can't keep up on the latest developments in all the fields. But from what I've seem of the Sierra shootings and the Ketchum analysis, I think they will be just another set of dead-end embarrassments to Bigfoot research. If Ketchum's analysis is solid, they should be replicated by other labs. Get them out there; there's no reason a Bigfoot buff should have special access. If the science is there, publish the results in a peer-reviewed journal. Otherwise it's just more of the same bullshit we've seen for decades. I've seen dozens of these "promised earthshaking evidence" things come and go: the Gates Yeti track; the Minnesota Iceman hoax; the Skookum elk print cast; the Biscardi / Georigia Bigfoot hoax; the recent Russian Yeti expedition, etc. It gives the whole field a bad name.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">5. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: In 2011 Bigfoot remains a popular topic in North America and yet there is still no conclusive proof in the form of a type specimen. How do you think the subject remains as popular as it does?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : Bigfoot has always been popular. I think a lot of it comes from pop culture. Of course something doesn't have to really exist to capture the public's imagination, think "vampires and zombies"so the lack of evidence isn't really a problem for most people. Unless you're trying to solve the mystery, which I am!</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">6. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: If Bigfoot was proven to exist tomorrow, what do you think our role as modern humans should be?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : If Bigfoot were found tomorrow, it should be treated like any other undiscovered species. It should be protected and studied and hopefully we can find out where in the evolutionary line it fits. I would love for Bigfoot to be proven real, that would be awesome and very exciting from a scientific point of view.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">7. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: Any thoughts or opinions on the Erickson Project?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : Yes. I'm always willing to look at new evidence, but real scientific proof of Bigfoot would be reported on CNN and ABC News, not in a movie. As I noted earlier, this is not the first time when someone has claimed hard evidence, and it won't be the last. These folks will be forgotten in ten years or be remembered as either sincere but deluded, or hoaxers.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">8. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: As a Bigfoot researcher, I've spoken with several witnesses. Credibility is always the big issue. Some encounters seem to be questionable or honest misidentifications, and yet there are others that to me, ring true. Have you personally ever spoken with a Bigfoot witness that you felt may be credible?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : Sure, I've interviewed many Bigfoot witnesses who seem very sincere and credible. The problem is that sincere and credible people are only human, and they are subject to the same eyewitness problems that everyone is. Anyone can be mistaken, and pilots, policemen, priests, and public officials are no exception. Just because a story "rings true" doesn't mean it reflects reality. It might, or it might not as I noted, eyewitness reports are not worthless, but unless they lead to real evidence, one report is as good as a thousand. And remember that not a single eyewitness report in history has ever provided a single verifiable detail about Bigfoot.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">9. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: In your article "Bigfoot on Ice" you gave several reasons why Bigfoot does not exist. One of the first was "the empty fossil record".</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">"There's no fossil record of anything fitting the description" of Bigfoot, said Radford. "There's simply nothing there." </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Many in the Bigfoot community believe these creatures likely to be relatives of Gigantopithecus. Isn't there some fossil evidence from China to support that theory?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : Sure, there's fossil records of Gigantopithecus, absolutely. I was referring to Bigfoot, not Gigantopithecus. Gigantopithecus lived about a half million years ago in Asia; Bigfoot (allegedly) lives in modern times in North America; they are completely different. You can speculate all you like that Bigfoot and Gigantopithecus are related, but there's no evidence for it at all, it's just a wild guess.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">10. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: It doesn't take a lot of research to find you've investigated various topics/mysteries from a skeptical point of view. Have you had any in-depth field investigations on the subject of Bigfoot? If so, can you tell us a little about some of those investigations?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : Sure... In addition to writing and researching various Bigfoot related topics (Skookum cast, Bigfoot videos, Manitoba Sasquatch hairs and videos, P/G film, etc.), I've done field investigations in Canada (near a town called The Pas in Manitoba); Central America (mostly Belize) in the Maya Mountains jaguar preserve, Honduras, and Nicaragua); in rural western New York state (a sighting and photo taken on a farm owned by Hans Mobius, investigated by Biscardi); in Louisiana (Honey Island Swamp); and elsewhere. Most of these were Bigfoot / wild man reports, and involved doing interviews, visiting sites, etc. I've probably done about a half dozen of those in total over 12 years, though I've spent more time doing field research and investigation on lake monsters (Scotland, USA, Canada) and chupacabra (Puerto Rico, Texas, and Nicaragua).</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">11.Q:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> I mentioned before, there's currently alot of excitement in the Bigfoot community about the Melba Ketchum DNA study. (Soon to be released we are told) This study is said to contain DNA sequencing from several different Bigfoot creatures. As a skeptic, if the results are found to be conclusive, will this change your opinion on the existence of Bigfoot/Sasquatch? If not, What evidence would be required for you to do so?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : "If the results are found to be conclusive, will this change your opinion on the existence of Bigfoot/Sasquatch?"</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> It depends on what the results say; I don't know what "conclusive"</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> means in this context. Conclusive about what? We have no reference sample of Bigfoot DNA to compare it to, so there cannot be a "conclusive match".</span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> I have no idea what Ketchum is going to claim about the DNA, but whatever it is, I will not just take her word for it; that's not how science works. The samples should be sent to independent DNA labs who have no vested or monetary interest in a movie, or the creature's existence. </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">I have serious questions about Ketchum's objectivity and bias, and I read on Cryptomundo that questions have been raised about her laboratory (and perhaps results). If whatever Ketchum comes up with is accurate and valid, then she should be happy to have independent labs run the same tests to support her conclusions. The whole veil of secrecy behind this project is both unscientific and laughable. If Ketchum is right, and they can prove Bigfoot exist, then I congratulate her and look forward to seeing the Bigfoot. Otherwise, we'll need a live or dead body.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">12. Q</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">: What advice would you give to those skeptics with an interest in Bigfoot?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Benjamin Radford</span></b><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> : I would hope that most people are "skeptical"despite how skeptics are often treated (I stopped posting on Cryptomundo because of the ridicule and abuse). My main advice is to give both the skeptics and believers a fair hearing. Don't let other people tell you, "skeptics say..."do your own research, take some time to really read some skeptical literature and arguments. You may not be convinced, but if you don't give each side a fair hearing, then you're just being closed-minded. I read a lot of "believer" books and magazines and articles, while I have found that relatively few "believers" have read skeptical books and magazines and articles, by people like Mike Dennett, Dave Deagling, Matt Crowley, or myself. Some people who haven't read my work assume or think that I say or believe that Bigfoot does not exist. This is completely wrong: I don't know if they exist or not. I'd love to see a Bigfoot, or find final proof that they exist. But I approach the topic with critical thinking and science, and I'm not going to accept a low bar for evidence. Nobody should.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "MS Mincho";"> </span><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 19.2pt; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: "Georgia", "serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Credit Wikipedia for opening information about Mr Radford. Chris B.</span></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eCEqisKKqDA/TrgItUsBttI/AAAAAAAAAB4/YLD6rCJODMI/s1600/BenjaminRadford-784074.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" ida="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eCEqisKKqDA/TrgItUsBttI/AAAAAAAAAB4/YLD6rCJODMI/s320/BenjaminRadford-784074.png" width="245" /></a></div>BigfootForumshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698486733912595644noreply@blogger.com1